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This table from the English Wiki lists which callibres are ethical for hunting which species. "Ethical" in the game's context mean that hits and kills will be scored, not ignored. Mostly it reflects considerations from reality, but some decisions got made to benefit game balancing and also sales interest. As I said, one can get along with very few different weapons, if one chooses wisely. The weapons also may have different characteristics in deer-stop-power
![]() For some reaosn I don'T know I cannot paste and copy the wiki's page title to link it. So I took screenshots. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() One can cover the whole range of species with 2-3 rifles and 1 shotgun, to have a bow or pistol already is a bonus game. If you play with the .50 from the civil war ![]() A bow is handy due to its silence, the pistols imo are not really needed. Bows vary in power and noise level. The Python is the most silent weapon in the game, crossbow and Snakebite are the most powerful bow weapons, the crossbow is the easiest to handle and allows to shoot while lying flat on the ground. As a shotgun, nothing beats the 6-shot pump action. Rifles, you need a small callibre for small game, a memium for most other naimals, and a huieg c allibre for the real big animals out there. The scoring system depends on the state the trophy is in - and when you shoot a little deer with a 9.3x62, the trophy suffers more than if you used a .223. Since the points awarded also reflect how long the animals survived after the hit, you need some dropping power nevertheless. Ypou can score good for state of the trophy, but ruining it when the prey escaped and still lived (and suffered) for 3 minutes. Is the .243 the only weapon you got so far, as a guest?
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I am not certain, Liponclaw, but I think if you are already a guest, you can, if you want, just head to the ingame shop and buy a memberhsip there. The game already is installed on your HD, no?! Buying a memeberhsuip will unlock full content for the time you chose, 3, 6 or 12 months. After that, it will gpo back to guest status. However, all items you bought and your statistics will be frozen. If you pause, and then later register another subscription period, all your content you bought before, will be unlocked again, you do not need to buy it again.
Be aware of that hunting mallards and geese, needs you to spend quite some money to increase the chance that you can lure the animals down to you. Both species are money traps to be hunted. Plenty of equipment needs to be bought to increase, item per item, the chance that you can lure the animals. It's quite an unfriendly design with these two species. Rabbits can be hunt with shotguns and birdshot, but using the air rifle means a real challenging gameplay - I like it. Beyond 35m, ballistics and wind really make themselves felt. And those little cuties in high grass and being quite nervous, are very unthankful targets.
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Been playing this for quite a while but finally took the plunge last night and bought the wayfarer membership and 2000EMS. Having great fun using the .308 Anschütz 1780, great rifle for pretty much anything. Anything it can't take down, I've got the trusty pump action and the .357 revolver for.
Just finished a hunt 10 minutes ago and managed to nail this beasty ![]() ![]() If anyone wants to hunt with me my game name is Monkster87, just send me a friends request on there and we'll go hunting sometime.
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The Anschütz 9.3x62 (a beefed up .308, if I'm not mistaken), is no rifle, but a cannon.
![]() It is the most superior meat-dropper over medium range, but at long range it loses precision and needs compensation due to the ballistics, so for the long range, the .300 probably is slightly better. At very close range, a shotgun with slug is the most brutal punishment there is, probably. I have played the 9.3 until 250 hits, getting all scoring points for it. The Anschütz 8x57IS also is a favourite of mine which I now use for moose and bear now, its firing sound could be mistaken for a tank cannon. ![]() The Blaser R8 6.5x55 is a very good choice to buy , too. It has a very fast reloading sequence, and if handled well it drops all deer except elk, moose and bears without affecting the score as much as the bigger callibre form the Anschütz rifle would do. For a basic weapons outfit, I would recommend people to make a choice between the two mentioned Anschütz rifles and the .300, one of these will make a solid "heavy rifle"; then go for the Blaser R8 6.5x55 for an most-purpose "medium rifle", and then the Varmint .223 as a "light rifle" for small game. As a shotgun, the pump action is the best, imo. And I would go for the Python bow, so that you can snapshot nearby prey without alarming all your vicinity of your presence (however, most prey will run away, but it is a good choice for taking out turkey, roe deer, foxes and the like). In principle, more weapons you do not need. Any other weapons you buy, is for taste or curiosity. On lures, any sprayed stuff - well, I play without it since I came to the game. But you need a caller for any species available, I use them all. Blinds: not really needed, if you play sneaky. Also, I have an issue with the towers and tent blinds, that is that yoiu cannot shoot from a stabilized posiiton when being within them, you cannot crouch. You need to shoot while standing, and thus: unstabilised. Very stupid. They are being told SINCE YEARS, and they do not listen. I would buy one camping tent at least. If oyu have it with you, always, you can "camp" at the end of the session, and later return and continue from your camping site. I have simulated whole virtual weekend expeditions that way, and enjoyed. Finally, clothing. POlent yof their latest clothing is comsetic only, to pose in mutliplayer, but there also is functional clothing. Basically, there are two types, the one is reducing visibility, the other is reducing scent and noise. The first is good against birds, foxes, coyotes, bears when you are in thwe woods, it is less effective in the open. The other set is more effective against the deer species. Usually there are sets for summer green reserves, autumn (Hirschfelden), winter (Hemmeldahl), and now rougarou bayou has its own visual set as well. However, these clothes make it easier and increase chances to avoid detection, and you can get closer before animals spook, but it is not essential to wear these clothes if you adapt your playing style and be more cautious when wearing ordinary clothes only. As I said, clothing saw a boost in varierty with the implementation of MP, and that is where their commercial interest aims at. I would get the bonoculars with integrated laser range finders, especially when you use the air rifle or a bow weapon. The Python bow since lately has a LRF aiming scope available, too. For the shotgun, there is a 2x red dot scope, but it is not really needed. The rfiles - I would get scopes for them. Avoid the 12x scope that is available for the .223, it is too tunnel-viewed. The Anschütz come with good 3-9x42 scopes, you need just one scope to buy, since it fits both rifles listed above. The rifles come in silver and black, so come the scopes, but you can mix the colours, if you want. Scent eliminator spray is a consumable. It helps if you plan to get real close. But I have now come to play more and more without it. A medikit allows you to continue the session if a hog or moose or bear mauls you up. Camping kit can b used to teleport to the camping sites or lodges, to continue from there. Since you made somethign wrong when an animals rolls over you, and you can adapt by playing more cautiously, none of these two items is essential. Use those shooting ranges, especially the one on the east of Redfeather Falls and when you plan to use bow weapons. Ducks and geese I would leave to snapshot the occasional animal you may tumble over when sneaking around. Specialising in hunting them imo is too much money for too little gameplay. You would need two callers (far and close range), a groundblind and at least 12 dummies to have reasonable chances to lure any flight of birds down to you. And that costs money. Run only for some seconds after you fired a rifle, or in heavy rain. Usually, you should walk or crouch. Only objects you cannot walk through hides you from the nauimals'S eyes, vegetation you can walk you will hinder your own eyesight, but will not hide you from the animal. Stay behind trees, therefore, lay down in grass. Be aware of wind direction, especially if you do not wear scent-reducing clothing and use no scent elimintor spray. My preferred times to start a hunt, are 0600 and 1500. I do not play in the time between 1000 and 1500. "I told him he should respect the right of way, but did he listen...? Nooo..." ![]()
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But... They are playing football now! Halftime. :-)
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Just some screenshots from my point of view whilst hunting with Lionclaw and Skybird.
Edit: For some reason the game looked really bad for me tonight, it had somehow defaulted to no AA, no anisotropic and scenery density was set at low, weird bug maybe. A half decent Whitey ![]() Moooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooose ![]() Pretty decent blacktail deer ![]() My first Roosevelt elk buck ![]()
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The photo on the mountain that I told you guys of, went amiss somehow, unfortunately.
I had five shots - five kills, a clean rifle statistics. I was satisfied. I made just one trophy shot and in a hurry, and it was not even a good one: ![]()
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I will announce my hunts in the forum from now on.
Subsimmers are welcome to join. ![]() Password will always be "Subsim" or "subsim". I usually start at 06:00 gametime, and will not run beyond 10:00 ingame time, at the latest.
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![]() Yeah, the .243 bolt action rifle. Quote:
I've played it a few hours now. I have yet to spot a male Mule Deer, only females so far. I'm not sure I'll hunt water birds. ![]() Cool, good to know so I don't repurchase stuff again. ![]() I think I'll get the Pathfinder bundle, more of a middle ground between the two other ones. It has a .44 Magnum revolver. ![]() I know what you're thinking. Did he fire 5 shots or 6? Infact, due to the excitement I lost track myself. Do you feel lucky? Well do ya, punk?! Paraphrased from Dirty Harry movies. |
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With the Pathfinder you can get along if you use slugs and buckshot, else you still need a reasonable rifle. The disadvantage of slugs is they do not reach that far and are not as precise. The clothing in the Pathfinder is nothing special, but it gives you a tent. And you still have no callers except for turkeys. If you want to use the bow, you may want a LRF. BTW, maximum rendering range for animals in the game is around 230 meters, beyond that they are still there and get calculated, but they will not be visible. Mule deer sometimes is called "ghost deer", and not for no reason, also, Logger's Point is not the most easiest reserve to play. I like it, but Whiteheart Island for example is easier. Try your luck in the early morning hours, and be silent, it is very good advise to behave like a submarine surfacing at night in fog within hostile waters. Most species have two activities at least: resting, and walking to eating grounds, and back. I am not certain whether I would call some observations of mine their effort to go to water to drink, too, or if that were just random meetings. The timetable for these activities vary from species to species. The real highscoring bucks are very difficult to find, and usually also cannot be lured, also, the ynever call themselves, or only rarely. Also note that higher scoring animals sometimes follow after a "spearhead" of low-scoring peasants, which can make it tricky to go after the good scores. Its these scenarios where I could think about using lure spray. But then I usually find that I have not taken it with me. P.S. An essential equipment to buy is a backpack. It doubles the space for items you can carry. To increase the number of ready-slots, also is comfortable, though not essential.
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I now have:
.243 Rifle (standard) .357 Revolver .44 Revolver 12 GA Pump Action Shotgun Compound Bow "Snakebite" I've been looking at the heavier rifles, a bit difficult to choose. ![]() K98k, German WW2 rifle. ![]() The Anschütz 1780 has wider selection of scopes though. ![]() Then there's the .300 or the .30-06. ![]() |
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Go by callibre. The WWII Carbine and the Anschütz 8x52IS are the same.
The carbine offers a 4x scope, the Anschütz a zoom scope with 3x, 6x, 9x. Very handy for quickly switching between precise aiming and getting situational overview. I would pick either the Carbine, or the Anschütz 9.3 (the bigger one of the Anschütz rifles) with scopes. Possibly the Anschütz - a bigger difference to the Blaser 6.5, if you ever get it later. Yes, that sounds right to me: a Blaser 6.5, and an Anschütz 9.3. With your .243 and pump gun, you then have a very nice combo - the right tool for every opportunity. The rifles with scopes (long shots), but the shotgun does not need one. Scopes always limit situational awareness. Consider to get callers. Really, they are important. Not the sprays, but the callers. Also, consider that backpack.
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I've got a game up on Loggers Point for anyone interested.
Search for Monkster87's Game password will be Subsim
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