Can't get away from the escorts during convoy attack....

Skarmy · 06-08-14, 02:49 PM

I'm getting hammered by these 2 Japanese DDs, I'm playing TMO mod and the year is early 43.. attempting to attack a large convoy but can't get away

Admiral Halsey · 06-08-14, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Skarmy

I'm getting hammered by these 2 Japanese DDs, I'm playing TMO mod and the year is early 43.. attempting to attack a large convoy but can't get away

You using just TMO? If so the best thing to do is GO DEEPER!!

merc4ulfate · 06-08-14, 03:50 PM

Depth?
Speed?
Battle Stations?
Repair Crew on?
Rigged for silent running?
Relative bearing fom convoy and escorts and exit heading?
Leaking Fuel?
Rear fish?

Skarmy · 06-08-14, 06:08 PM

I can't shake these DDs for snot and they have a seemingly unlimited supply of depth charges.

merc4ulfate · 06-08-14, 08:15 PM

Thank you for the information ... the data was most ... enlightening.

Skarmy · 06-08-14, 08:48 PM

Silent running was on.. thermal layer was at about 130ft, I had silent running on, Battle stations active, I tried getting away various ways- but the way that ended up working was turning away immediately after launching torps and hauling butt away, surfacing when torps hit and landing a few 85lb shells on the destroyers to sink them.

Admiral Halsey · 06-08-14, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Skarmy

Silent running was on.. thermal layer was at about 130ft, I had silent running on, Battle stations active, I tried getting away various ways- but the way that ended up working was turning away immediately after launching torps and hauling butt away, surfacing when torps hit and landing a few 85lb shells on the destroyers to sink them.

Well there's your problem. You can't have battle stations on if you have silent running on since battle stations causes MORE noise then normal. Do that and go deep and you should shake them in no time.

merc4ulfate · 06-09-14, 02:32 PM

"You can't have battle stations on if you have silent running "

Exactly.

Armistead · 06-09-14, 02:52 PM

I haven't played in some time, but seems you could activate battle stations and silent running at the same time. As far as I recall the game doesn't hurt you if you have BS on, just that SR gives you more advantage.
Course mods vary...seems we argued before if BS was on with silent running had bad effect and Duci said no...

Anyway, escaping shouldn't be a problem, go deep and hit flank when they drop, after they explode, go back to silent running. The charges should fall behind you this way. Stay as narrow as possible to the nearest escort.

As far as your sub, when you try to attack, keep a narrow profile to the nearest escort, don't be broadside to one.

7499275 · 06-09-14, 03:42 PM

Speaking of going deep... What are max depths for the subs in SH4? Been so long since I played I don't recall.

Father Goose · 06-09-14, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Armistead

I haven't played in some time...

That's most concerning. You need to get out from behind that desk Admiral.

THEBERBSTER · 06-09-14, 06:41 PM

I am using a Sargo so have 4 rear tubes.

I use these when taking on an escorted convoy from 3,000 yards.

This gives me a big advantage as I am already facing away from the escorts.

I can go deep and slip away at 1 or 2 knots.

If you have BS and SR on and then take BS off that bloody whistle and the shouting order kind of defeats the SR objective.

Snarf · 06-10-14, 12:16 PM

Run Silent, Run Deep, Constant Helming. turn up the volume... when you hear the splashes, increase speed, hard rudder.

Pisces · 06-10-14, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Snarf

Run Deep, Run Silent, Constant Helming. turn up the volume... when you hear the splashes, increase speed, hard rudder.

Fixed that order for you. First slow and then deep doesn't make you move very far away from those depthcharges. It would take ages for you to get down there.

merc4ulfate · 06-10-14, 07:33 PM

There is one issue with Battlestations. Your repair crew is actively making noise and I think the game simulates this with BS on. I have always noticed a correlation between being hear and being at BS.

When ever I am trying to get away I always turn BS off while running silent in order to stop the repair crew. Some mods reactivate the repair crew at BS even if you turn it off manually.

06-08-14, 02:49 PM	#1
Skarmy Mate Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 57 Downloads: 50 Uploads: 0	Can't get away from the escorts during convoy attack.... I'm getting hammered by these 2 Japanese DDs, I'm playing TMO mod and the year is early 43.. attempting to attack a large convoy but can't get away

06-08-14, 03:50 PM	#3
merc4ulfate DILLIGAF Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: florida Posts: 2,058 Downloads: 210 Uploads: 0	Depth? Speed? Battle Stations? Repair Crew on? Rigged for silent running? Relative bearing fom convoy and escorts and exit heading? Leaking Fuel? Rear fish? __________________ Self-education is, I firmly believe, the only kind of education there is. ~Isaac Asimov~ Mercfulfate 将補日本帝國海軍

06-08-14, 08:15 PM	#5
merc4ulfate DILLIGAF Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: florida Posts: 2,058 Downloads: 210 Uploads: 0	Thank you for the information ... the data was most ... enlightening. __________________ Self-education is, I firmly believe, the only kind of education there is. ~Isaac Asimov~ Mercfulfate 将補日本帝國海軍

06-09-14, 02:32 PM	#8
merc4ulfate DILLIGAF Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: florida Posts: 2,058 Downloads: 210 Uploads: 0	"You can't have battle stations on if you have silent running " Exactly. __________________ Self-education is, I firmly believe, the only kind of education there is. ~Isaac Asimov~ Mercfulfate 将補日本帝國海軍

06-09-14, 02:52 PM	#9
Armistead Rear Admiral Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: on the Dan Posts: 10,880 Downloads: 364 Uploads: 0	I haven't played in some time, but seems you could activate battle stations and silent running at the same time. As far as I recall the game doesn't hurt you if you have BS on, just that SR gives you more advantage. Course mods vary...seems we argued before if BS was on with silent running had bad effect and Duci said no... Anyway, escaping shouldn't be a problem, go deep and hit flank when they drop, after they explode, go back to silent running. The charges should fall behind you this way. Stay as narrow as possible to the nearest escort. As far as your sub, when you try to attack, keep a narrow profile to the nearest escort, don't be broadside to one. __________________ You see my dog don't like people laughing. He gets the crazy idea you're laughing at him. Now if you apologize like I know you're going to, I might convince him that you really didn't mean it.

06-08-14, 06:08 PM	#4
Skarmy Mate Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 57 Downloads: 50 Uploads: 0	I can't shake these DDs for snot and they have a seemingly unlimited supply of depth charges.

06-08-14, 08:48 PM	#6
Skarmy Mate Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 57 Downloads: 50 Uploads: 0	Silent running was on.. thermal layer was at about 130ft, I had silent running on, Battle stations active, I tried getting away various ways- but the way that ended up working was turning away immediately after launching torps and hauling butt away, surfacing when torps hit and landing a few 85lb shells on the destroyers to sink them.

06-09-14, 03:42 PM	#10
7499275 A-ganger Join Date: May 2012 Location: In the middle of the pacific. Posts: 73 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	Speaking of going deep... What are max depths for the subs in SH4? Been so long since I played I don't recall.

06-09-14, 06:41 PM	#12
THEBERBSTER Growing Old Disgracefully Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Hythe - Southampton Posts: 9,609 Downloads: 1133 Uploads: 0	I am using a Sargo so have 4 rear tubes. I use these when taking on an escorted convoy from 3,000 yards. This gives me a big advantage as I am already facing away from the escorts. I can go deep and slip away at 1 or 2 knots. If you have BS and SR on and then take BS off that bloody whistle and the shouting order kind of defeats the SR objective. __________________ LSH3-2015 <> TUTORIALS <> ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW <> ALL IN ONE PLACE SH4 <> TUTORIALS <> HOW TO DO IT <> INFORMATION <> DOWNLOAD LINKS SH5 <> TUTORIALS <> HOW TO DO IT <> INFORMATION <> DOWNLOAD LINKS Always Here To Help A Fellow 'Subber' \| Need An Answer to A Question Just Send Me A PM

06-10-14, 12:16 PM	#13
Snarf Officer Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: USS Tuna out of Pearl Harbor Posts: 243 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 10	Run Silent, Run Deep, Constant Helming. turn up the volume... when you hear the splashes, increase speed, hard rudder. __________________ "Damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead!" -David Farragut (probably repeated by many WWII sub skippers)

06-10-14, 07:33 PM	#15
merc4ulfate DILLIGAF Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: florida Posts: 2,058 Downloads: 210 Uploads: 0	There is one issue with Battlestations. Your repair crew is actively making noise and I think the game simulates this with BS on. I have always noticed a correlation between being hear and being at BS. When ever I am trying to get away I always turn BS off while running silent in order to stop the repair crew. Some mods reactivate the repair crew at BS even if you turn it off manually. __________________ Self-education is, I firmly believe, the only kind of education there is. ~Isaac Asimov~ Mercfulfate 将補日本帝國海軍