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Old 05-03-14, 06:47 PM   #1
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Is Britain that much a police state already?
No, not really.

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The newspaper is the FAZ, which could be described as the German equivalent to the Times, so it is not just some yellow press paper.
The Times is just The Sun with big words and no tits, perhaps you should choose another publication to compare the Frankfurter with.
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Old 05-03-14, 11:03 PM   #2
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No, not really.


The Times is just The Sun with big words and no tits, perhaps you should choose another publication to compare the Frankfurter with.
nope, wise people have done this comparision: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...22&postcount=5 maybe the FAZ has a lil more focus on cultural things - though it was dismissed as "they're all Commie papers!"
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nope, wise people have done this comparision: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...22&postcount=5 maybe the FAZ has a lil more focus on cultural things - though it was dismissed as "they're all Commie papers!"
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I say yes but not in the cover story that we all know.

I agree about CCTV we have it every where but 80% are the old analogue poor picture system not much help to anyone. HDCCTV costs a lot more money and I hardly think your see them in town centers and car parks.
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Old 05-04-14, 05:23 AM   #5
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Here's what I'll do.

When I'll stay in London this year, I'll be watchful of my surroundings and then compare how safe I feel compared to my country.

If I feel safer in regards of feeling safe from the law, the entire article is horse manure since police presence here is sitting nearby a cop on break in a pub and CCTV is something only banks have.
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Old 05-04-14, 06:23 AM   #6
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It'S unfortunate that the essay is not available in English and thus this thread necessarily remains to be shallow, actually the essay is much more subtle and does not target the surveillance state only that is being excused with 2001 and 2005, but a climate of generally risen fear and over-caution that indicates a severe mentality change. As the author put it: the Brits are the new Prussians of Europe, obedient and servile towards a state that increasingly bosses them around on behalf or propagating the better moral behaviour, and some of the exmaple he gives, are really pretty much absurd. This, he says, is increasingly supressing the classic heritage of Britian being a home of tight-lipped citizens defending their civil liberties and not being intimidated that easily at all. He referred to a recent article in the Spectator that apparently published an essay arguing in this general tone.

What I think, not just about Britain but about the EU in general, is this. There is this old and quitre amsuing action mmovie with Sylvester Stallone, "Deomolition man". It depicts a future in which people are infantile idiots moving around grinning all day and babbling super-soft-soft empty phrases and greetings designed to illustrate how wellmeaning and joyful everybody is. That the police'S ability to deal with criminal thugs got completely castrated by this imbecility, is part of what makes this movie so funny. At the core of this new, super-healthy society is a dictator that rules by pretending to just mean it well, the suppression is dressed in the clothes of moral behavior, better food rules and health education and again aims at castrating any aggressive drive in people. With a population of infantile early imbeciles, you do not need physical violence and torture, police and arrest as tools to secure your power - castrating the people between their ears and turning them into grinning idiots works so much better.

Funny movie, btw, some of the humorous points still make me laugh, especially Sly's way to find toilet paper in a world that does not know toilet paper anymore.

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Old 05-04-14, 06:44 AM   #7
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I tried to find that article in the Spectator, but not knowing author and titkle, that was in vein, but I found this article, which is loosely linked to the matter, and it is good:

http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/edwest/...d-even-madder/

This is also what the German FAZ article touches upon. The Spectator at the end argues "It’s just that in Britain and America the liberal-Left has had a moral monopoly for so many years that this has pushed it to some extreme positions, encouraged intolerance of other opinions, and created a large moral gulf between the rulers and the ruled."

This is true in Germany as well, though due to slightly different mechanisms. In the late 60s, there were the student riots over here that Germans today just summarize under a single label, calling it all "die Achtundsechziger", or "68er". Protests against America, Vietnam, at the same time celebrating mass murder committed in the name of communist regimes, then the rise of left terrorism in Germany, a general revolt against the petrified state structures, and time and again propagating communism over market economy and democracy.Unfortunately in germany this scene was allowed to seize the most influential field of inner poltics there is: the educaiton sector. Year for year and decade for decade, the educational structures (public schools, universities, and their pltical adminstration) were left under control of the 68er generation, and that allowed them to breed the generation that would follow them once they themselves would leave the job scene due to age. Today, we have the seocnd and third generaiton of 68er in place, andf they arranged themselves nicely with the growing trend in ALL poltical parties towards socialst concepts, which is unavoidably like I have often argued before, because politicians make career by promising to plunder the rich and share the loot with the mass, and the mass demands form politicians to plunder the rich and share the loot with the masses. And so, traditional politics and far-left leaning thinking in the 68er tradition came together.

That's why poltical correctness is striking terribly heavy today in German schools and universities, also this terrible joke of genderist pseudo-science and ultra-radical feminism. If you have the bug sitting in the very centre of your education industry, then it breeds more and more bugs like itself, of course.

And it shows.

It's like with a tick. The more blood it sucks, the more germ-infested poison it produces and pumps it into its victim.
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You are fined five credits for a breach of the verbal morality statue.
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