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Old 04-24-14, 04:39 AM   #1
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En ce qui concerne le "backface cull"....Anodyne stuff you don't need to care about, just a few advices as to what to do to build that pressure hull roughly.
You seem to have some degrees with max...Bien So, You have to know, by example, that this number of polygons is negligible compared to the creation of flooding holes itself. And to respond at your question, model is in constant technical adjustment and evolution. So, it is not as simple as it seems, especially when created polys that interfer with others...but be patient





Yes ! Google is...my bible, my friend, my Lord (but not only) since a loooong date of modding, of course, since I began this model (like all the others for others games, by the way). Players like me love details and this is our big default (or quality), I don't know, perhaps the both...Otherwise, to find historical photos of 1940 with detailed flooding holes in the front from a type VIII to realize what parts are visible or not is more of a challenge than anything else. You couldn't ignore it, isn't it ?






So, I hoped, to my despair, that you had brought me the information that I have missed so badly...Nay...

Let's proceed step by step cause you seem to misunderstand. I need details, not approximatively datas :



1/ See through the other side. After doing research on the web, I found that this part was empty inside. Already done.

2/ See through the other side. Logically. Already Done.

3/ Full, logically too, cause the torpedoes chambers. Already done.

4/ See through the other side. After doing research on the web, I found that this part was empty inside. Already done.

5/ FULL (or partially). But, IF you could you confirm that (cause your screen) as you seem to know a lot about it. That was my question first, remember. Hope it's clear for you now. Partially done.

6/ Full, logically cause the Turm. Already done.

7/ FULL. But to confirm. Perhaps partially full, I don't know...Partially done.

8/ Same as above...

9/ See through the other side. After doing research on the web, I found that this part was empty inside. Already done.

10/ Same as above...

11/ Same as above...


Hope it helps ?





Donc 5, 7 et 8 , tu ferais quoi si tu étais à ma place ? Nan, plus sérieusement, ça a quelle gueule, en vrai, même avec Google ?




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Old 04-24-14, 04:47 AM   #2
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It does. I know what you're looking for, dude. Unfortunately that kind of pic showing these areas is not the average one you'll be able to find easily.

For you to get a rough idea of the size of that pressure hull inside the external one.



I guess you can see now how much it was hard to see from one side to the other, with that pressure hull inside, and that stuff you can find right under the deck.

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Old 04-24-14, 07:22 AM   #3
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It does. Now you can see how much it was hard to see from one side to the other, with that pressure hull inside, and that stuff you can find right under the deck.

OK. I see it more clearly now. Thank you for your help. Look at the picture below. As you can see, I have combined exterior and interior plans of a typ7b. Pressure hull is pink. Is that correct for you ?

What could you tell me about the different sectors ?


*Red line: exterior
*Black line: interior
*Orange: full flooding holes
*Dark Blue: empty flooding holes (see through the other side)
*Dark Green: visible parts (or not ?). I would like to know, plz.


Respectively to our analysis, is 1, 2, 3, 4, 5.....11 are correct for you ?



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Old 04-24-14, 08:13 AM   #4
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OK. I see it more clearly now. Thank you for your help. Look at the picture below. As you can see, I have combined exterior and interior plans of a typ7b. Pressure hull is pink. Is that correct for you ?
I guess it is.

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What could you tell me about the different sectors ?


*Red line: exterior
*Black line: interior
*Orange: full flooding holes
*Dark Blue: empty flooding holes (see through the other side)
*Dark Green: visible parts (or not ?). I would like to know, plz.
I guess it's fine - but I can't see your black line there. And when it comes to the dark green area, I can only guess that structure is featured inside the external hull, and so is not visible.



No need to care about holes in that green stuff, the average player just will not open your model in any 3D computer graphics software to check out whether the structure inside the external hull is a faithful reproduction of the original VIIB's.

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Respectively to our analysis, is 1, 2, 3, 4, 5.....11 are correct for you ?
In my humble opinion, they are.
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Old 04-24-14, 09:54 AM   #5
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Super, your help is welcome. I notice for the dark green. You have to understand that my main preocupation is: what could we see from the exterior once the flooding holes are open. What is visible and what is not. That's all. Henceforth the questions are clear, I'm going to update the model and come back with the corrections. Time to dive again.

Thank you kamerad and bonjour de Paris !


PS: btw, thank you again for your report, to have pinpointed the problem and help me make this model the most authentic in greater objectivity. Au dessus c'est le soleil !
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Glad to know I've been able to bring you a helping hand somehow !

Salutations nancéennes, see you later !
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Old 04-29-14, 07:09 PM   #7
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indead amazing attention to details, Jochem

keep at it mate ... looks so rocking good !

ps: get rid of these textures as soon as possible. they are ruining the immersion
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