Stabbing spree at high school!

[swamprat69er]

What makes people do these things? These are just kids.

[Kptlt. Neuerburg]

Originally Posted by swamprat69er

What makes people do these things? These are just kids.

Any number of reasons, bullying, peer pressure, lack of attention, abuse, hazing. Chances are though it's going to be for a dumb reason. @TheDarkWraith, I knew someone was going to say that sooner or later.

[TheDarkWraith]

Originally Posted by Kptlt. Hellmut Neuerburg

Any number of reasons, bullying, peer pressure, lack of attention, abuse, hazing. Chances are though it's going to be for a dumb reason.

What I'd be curious to know is if the kid came from a single parent family (single mom) or from a family whose parents both work long hours. Lack of father figures isn't helping the world today and the increase in single parent households isn't helping either. Having both parents who work also doesn't help because majority of the time they don't have 'time' for their kids and thus the kids find other ways to get attention

[Kptlt. Neuerburg]

Originally Posted by TheDarkWraith

What I'd be curious to know is if the kid came from a single parent family (single mom) or from a family whose parents both work long hours. Lack of father figures isn't helping the world today and the increase in single parent households isn't helping either. Having both parents who work also doesn't help because majority of the time they don't have 'time' for their kids and thus the kids find other ways to get attention

There is also the possibility of the parents being divorced and working, I've know quite a number of people who's parents are divorced and 9/10 time the child ends up hating the new step parent. Different events effect different people in different ways, some can deal with it and others can't.

[TheDarkWraith]

Originally Posted by Kptlt. Hellmut Neuerburg

There is also the possibility of the parents being divorced and working, I've know quite a number of people who's parents are divorced and 9/10 time the child ends up hating the new step parent. Different events effect different people in different ways, some can deal with it and others can't.

Very true I can identify instances of this just in my neighborhood. Out of 18 homes 5 are single family, 3 have step parents, and the rest are either single with no kids or married with kids with one parent as a stay at home parent. The single family and step parent home's kids are always in some form of trouble. Those kids are starving for attention.

[AVGWarhawk]

Schools need metal detectors. 3-5 doors for entering the school. These are manned. Let's face it, we are only kidding ourselves all is well in the psyche of budding teenager.

[Wolferz]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Schools need metal detectors. 3-5 doors for entering the school. These are manned. Let's face it, we are only kidding ourselves all is well in the psyche of budding teenager.

Good idea. Get them acclimated to their next place of residence...
Prison.
Many schools already have metal detectors and security personnel. Some even have a police officer stationed on site. The high school here keeps the doors locked and you can't get in unless someone lets you in and you need an appointment to gain entry. (prison)

The last time I was in my high school, the security guards were gathering after I completed my business there. They looked like they were spoiling for a fight until my former biology teacher came along and addressed me by name.

[Oberon]

I'll never understand why this thing seems to happen so often over there...

[BossMark]

Originally Posted by Oberon

I'll never understand why this thing seems to happen so often over there...

True but this time without a gun.......

[Schroeder]

Originally Posted by BossMark

True but this time without a gun.......

Would most likely have been much worse with one...

[Wolferz]

Originally Posted by Oberon

I'll never understand why this thing seems to happen so often over there...

Our population has been a melting pot for the peoples of the world.
Just like melting metals, you're going to get some slag. All you can do is scrape it off before the pour.

I think if people would stop buying into these media frenzies some of the problem might go away.
These perps are nothing but slag and don't deserve all the attention. (15 minutes of fame)

Sadly, the only way to stop the frenzies is by publically boycotting the advertisers who prompt these kinds of stories.

[vanjast]

I come from a broken home....

My mother held down 3 jobs a day for years to see us through.
My elder brother and myself are fine. My younger sister went off the rails for a bit, but recovered.

We were dirt poor, my mother was broke 2 days after every payday.
I never had a lunchbox at an expensive school, while the rich kids 'pigged out'.
I was bullied, and fought back. We were then sent to a 'government' school (much cheaper), but education was the same standard.

My mother couldn't afford UNI, I studied in the military, got a job at UNI and studied part-time for 10 years night school, while holding down a day job.

When my kids come up with this 'entitlement'.. Mom and I lay into them from a dizzy height, an 'crucify' them. We meet 'fire with fire' from our kids, but show full support to the extreme - that's what parents do!

I also used the belt (with self discipline) on each kid from the age of 6 - 10, there after I used it as a 'threat reminder' to great effect. Mom and I have shown them how we can 'explode' - they know the boundaries.

I've never considered a grudge against anyone for my 'misfortune', but always looked at educating and improving myself - that along the way I picked up the world's hottest chick, and have great kids and living the life... well as they say..

Every dark cloud has a silver lining

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Wolferz

Good idea. Get them acclimated to their next place of residence...
Prison.
Many schools already have metal detectors and security personnel. Some even have a police officer stationed on site. The high school here keeps the doors locked and you can't get in unless someone lets you in and you need an appointment to gain entry. (prison)

The last time I was in my high school, the security guards were gathering after I completed my business there. They looked like they were spoiling for a fight until my former biology teacher came along and addressed me by name.

All schools should have metal detectors. My daughters school has a police officer present all day. Full fledged. Metal detectors are used at sporting events, amusement parks and the like. Not much in the way of gun/knife play at these placed. Last year a student left my daughters school and returned later. There is only one way in when school starts. The school secretary questioned the student when he returned. His answers were sketchy at best. They searched his bag as a result. Gun found. Student was taken into custody. For me, metal detectors are a must. We continually play Russian roulette pretending things like this just don't happen in my neighborhood school. We are fools......

[Wolferz]

If we're going to constantly expect the worst from these kids, sooner than later they will oblige.
This state already requires that book bags be made of a see through material. Everything else is prohibited.

[swamprat69er]

There weren't metal detectors or cops hanging around the HS I went to. We all carried knives. We didn't use them against each other, we used them as tools.
I got caught in machine shop (which I went to class after my regular classes), I had made a beautiful (in my eyes) set of brass knuckles, complete with razor sharp edges. The instructor/teacher confiscated them. I still got the marks for the work, but did not get to keep the product. He told me they were illegal.
It is a good thing I never got searched while I went there, I always carried a switchblade in my pocket. The Town of Whitby Police got that. I didn't get charged, but I lost the knife.