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[Ducimus]

You know, I have to wonder, just how important is the 3.5 " shell ? I would look into the value of a 3" vs a 3.5" more. On a lark i just googled "3.5 inch shotgun" and the first thing that caught my eye was this:

http://www.fieldandstream.com/articl...ut-shogun-ammo

then this:
http://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthr...h_more_range_d (8 page thread )

Maybe you've already hashed this out for yourself, I dunno, but a cursory look has me wondering about the practical value of a 3.5" shell. I can't say for sure, but I think your options on available shotguns open up a bit more with a 3" shell. In any event, if i were in the market for another shotgun, i'd be looking very closely at the pro's and cons on the two shell sizes.

As autoloaders go, i'm not sure there is such a thing as an affordable autoloader. Personally If I had 800 to 2,000 to blow, it wouldn't be on a scattergun.

[Red October1984]

Originally Posted by Ducimus

You know, I have to wonder, just how important is the 3.5 " shell ? I would look into the value of a 3" vs a 3.5" more. On a lark i just googled "3.5 inch shotgun" and the first thing that caught my eye was this. Maybe you've already hashed this out for yourself, I dunno, but a cursory look has me wondering about the practical value of a 3.5" shell. I can't say for sure, but I think your options on available shotguns open up a bit more with a 3" shell. In any event, if i were in the market for another shotgun, i'd be looking very closely at the pro's and cons on the two shell sizes.

I'd like to have the option to go to 3.5"

It's traditionally what is used around here for geese. I have a box of 3" duck shells that I haven't gotten to use yet. I just want to get more bang for my buck. Figured i'd just get a good 2.75-3.5 inch gun that can do it all if I'm going to buy one at all.

As autoloaders go, i'm not sure there is such a thing as an affordable autoloader. Personally If I had 800 to 2,000 to blow, it wouldn't be on a scattergun.

See, i'm the same way. I've arrived at that conclusion. I'm not going to find a good affordable autoloader. If I wanted one I'd be looking at spending a LOT of money. If I was going to pay more than 800$ for a gun, it would be a tricked out tactical AR or something of the sort. I like a lot of FN's stuff.

Still haven't gotten an M14 yet.

[Ducimus]

Originally Posted by Red October1984

I'd like to have the option to go to 3.5"

It's traditionally what is used around here for geese. I have a box of 3" duck shells that I haven't gotten to use yet.

Ahh, I see said the blind man. Don't mind me, i was just thinking aloud my ignorance. Options are good. I like options.

[Red October1984]

Originally Posted by Ducimus

Ahh, I see said the blind man. Don't mind me, i was just thinking aloud my ignorance. Options are good. I like options.

Nah. You're good. The whole point of my posting here about this is to get opinions.

[Aktungbby]

Originally Posted by privateer

Anyone have any hands on with EAA’s Compact 9mm Witness Pavona for Women?

I'm considering one for the Wife.

Get one for each of them! 3.5 barrel lends to defense only at close distance...30'; wretched color selection; 13 rnds in .9mm-- prefer chrome slide to blued. More knock down oomph but fewer rounds (9) in SW.40 version which is better for ladies' home defense! $529 in chrome but the bad guy can see it in low light (opt out and start runnin') and there's less corrosion. Can the ladies handle a stiff slide pull as opposed to a 'tip-up' under stress?

[Platapus]

Originally Posted by Aktungbby

13 rnds in .9mm

You are probably gonna need all 13 rounds to stop the guy if this handgun shoots .9mm rounds.

[Red October1984]

Shoot a .45...because they don't make a .46

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by privateer

I only have one Wife so 1 is enuff at just under 300 bucks.

30' is plenty of range for our home. No miracle long shots through a rear window I'd think.

13 rounds of 9mm should be enuff. If not? Time for a new Wife.

I'm thinking give her the Local LEO training. Keep pulling the trigger till it's empty, reload, and if they moan? Repeat!

I'm surprise that famed left hook isn't enough for Nancy Lady

[Aktungbby]

Originally Posted by privateer

I only have one Wife so 1 is enuff at just under 300 bucks.

Stop taking the Schizophrenia meds; you'll think otherwise!

30' is plenty of range for our home. No miracle long shots through a rear window I'd think.

Really! I've been pacing off a lot of tinted window SUV's this last week (60') while at outdoor ATM's guarding the techs and the shot ain't even feasible for a stationary vehicle; and I've got laser grips to boot. Once he's 'back to ya' and moving away, you're out of it legally and paper-work-wise; Christian/bullet backfield considerations not withstanding... especially as I'm usually on camera'd locations and the choreography of 'what if' must be 'spot on'!

13 rounds of 9mm should be enuff. If not? Time for a new Wife.

Nah! Since my Fed days in the housing: carry the first three-four rounds in the clip, and in the 'pipe' of these...Black Talon;(photo) which were discontinued due to public outcry (2000) but have been replaced by Winchester SXT in 2007(SXT="same exact thing")and in 2009 by the Winchester Supreme Elite PDX1 'reverse taper': and the balance of the clip in standard jacketed rounds for economy. For home defense, there need be few rules. Be careful around Nancy! Mr. Pistorius, currently on trial, used Black Talons on his Ms. Reeva in S. Africa and, of course: an extra clip and proper holster for your beloved, now armed, fraü...guaranteed to bring out her femme fatale BBY!.

I'm thinking give her the Local LEO training. Keep pulling the trigger till it's empty, reload, and if they moan? Repeat!

Excellent notion !!! as (LEO) it usually quals you for the CCW permit as well. AGAIN! a spare clip-properly sequenced (loadstack-wise) magazine...pour le Coupe de Grâce mon amis!... for a fast reload on those 'still wiggling "moaners"'!

[les green01]

have anyone here mess with the 1847 walkers from cabela's