Please help - SH3 1.4b + GWX + v16b1 + Stiebler 4b

GJO · 03-23-14, 04:40 PM

I have been running SH3 1.4b + GWX + v16b1 in Windows 8.1 and all is fine - now on my 22nd patrol. Last time I was in my home port, I added Stiebler's patch and it would appear that I may need to do some tweaking next time I am in port - nevertheless, there is one change that I don't understand:

Where my 'stealth meter' used to be, I now have a yellow cloud and if I click on it, it produces a label that says 'Weather Meter' but what does it do? Or what should it do? It doesn't seem to change even when the weather changes from zero wind and unlimited visibility to 15 Metres per second and poor visibility with heavy rain.

Aras · 03-23-14, 05:00 PM

I think you have added Stiebler4A_V16B1_Addon Patch for H.sie's hardcoded fixes. One of the features of the mod is it replaces Stealth Meter with Weather Meter.

From Stieblers' Post about the mod :
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=196674

Additions: for Patch4A:
Null Grid Mod (Depart with an assigned grid from ports that are not home bases
Weather Meter (See the current fog-visibility on screen, instead of the Stealth Meter)
Ship Speed Fix (As requested by Hitman - ships slow in strong winds/heavy seas)

GJO · 03-24-14, 04:33 AM

Thank you 'Aras' - you are quite correct the mod that I have just added is Stiebler's latest patch 'GWX3_Stiebler4B_Addon_for_V16B1' which I downloaded from the thread in your link. I posted my query using my cell phone whilst 'in-game' - so did not have full access to my mods list.

What seems to have occurred is that the 'Weather Meter' is actually behaving as a 'Stealth Meter' because during a surfaced gunfire battle with an armed Passenger/Cargo ship - it changed rapidly until the target sank. I think I will have to re-arrange my mods to get it to work as it should.

I currently have the following mods activated:

Generic Mod Enabler - v2.6.0.157
[C:\Games\SilentHunterIII\MODS]

GWX - 16km Atmosphere
GWX - Enhanced Damage Effects
GWX - No Medals on Crew
LITE RADIO TRAFIC V1
Spirit of machines
Torpedo damage Final ver2.0
Waterstream+Exhaust Combi V2.3 for GWX3
WB's Renown Replacement
Wooden_Lifeboats_Mod_1.1
GWX_DFa-Flag&Pens_2010
V16B1 (JSGME)
GWX3_Stiebler4B_Addon_for_V16B1

Aras · 03-24-14, 04:51 AM

I don't know much about the mods and their conflicts but your mod list seems fine to me. You have activated H.sie's and Stiebler's Add-on last as you should.

I have installed Stiebler's add-on once and seeing it has many restrictions while using I uninstalled it. I didn't went for Weather Meter thinking I have to enable Stealth Meter from realism option. As far as I remember you had to change some files in order to activate Weather Meter. Maybe you should recheck each step in Stiebler's the manual.

GJO · 03-24-14, 10:53 AM

OK! I have disabled the 'Stealth Meter' to increase my level of realism to 74% and that has got rid of the 'Yellow cloud' - which I didn't need because my Watch Crew are more than capable of providing perfectly adequate weather reports. I have also added 'GWX Integrated Orders' as a final mod (as recommended by 'BigWalleye' here and that works nicely. I have also edited the Data/Menu/en_menu.txt to substitute the various English language labelling with authentic German terminology - there was a mod for this but it gets overwritten by the 'V16B1' patch and the'GWX3_Stiebler4B_Addon_for_V16B' so I have edited it manually - it never seemed quite right to have English labelling in a German boat.And now for my next patrol . . .

tpalmer · 03-24-14, 11:43 AM

hi friends.........I have old dvd sh3 version...wont run on wind 8.....what version and where should I buy so I can run gw3, commander r3.2.....says I should buy for 10$ and donate.....yes???

BigWalleye · 03-24-14, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by GJO

OK! I have disabled the 'Stealth Meter' to increase my level of realism to 74% and that has got rid of the 'Yellow cloud' - which I didn't need because my Watch Crew are more than capable of providing perfectly adequate weather reports. I have also added 'GWX Integrated Orders' as a final mod (as recommended by 'BigWalleye' here and that works nicely. I have also edited the Data/Menu/en_menu.txt to substitute the various English language labelling with authentic German terminology - there was a mod for this but it gets overwritten by the 'V16B1' patch and the'GWX3_Stiebler4B_Addon_for_V16B' so I have edited it manually - it never seemed quite right to have English labelling in a German boat.And now for my next patrol . . .

If h.sie's and Stiebler's patches are overwriting en_menu.txt, then you have not installed either of the patchers properly. If you follow the instructions, the additional entries for the patchers are added to the en_menu.txt file after all other mods have been activated with JSGME. Then the V16B1 and Stiebler patch mods are enabled LAST. So the en_menu.txt file is just the version of that file which was written in by the last mod activated, plus the additions made for V16B1 and Stiebler, which won't affect anything else. Follow the instructions provided and there will be no need for additional editing.

GWX Integrated Orders overwrites menu_1024_768.ini. If you install it literally "as a final mod" - after Stiebler's patch, it will overwrite the Stiebler version of menu_1024_768.ini and "break" the mod. As with en_menu.txt, you should make the additions to menu_1024_768,ini required by the Stiebler patch after all other mods have been activated. Otherwise, things will not work as they should.

The Weather Meter is supposed to tell you the weather conditions before you surface. IIRC, you don't get weather reports when there is no watch crew topside (like when you are submerged). The Weather Meter is not for everyone. I personally find it too God-like. YMMV.

WAEFRTD

03-23-14, 04:40 PM	#1
GJO Engineer Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: On the Oxford Canal in England Posts: 202 Downloads: 40 Uploads: 0	Please help - SH3 1.4b + GWX + v16b1 + Stiebler 4b I have been running SH3 1.4b + GWX + v16b1 in Windows 8.1 and all is fine - now on my 22nd patrol. Last time I was in my home port, I added Stiebler's patch and it would appear that I may need to do some tweaking next time I am in port - nevertheless, there is one change that I don't understand: Where my 'stealth meter' used to be, I now have a yellow cloud and if I click on it, it produces a label that says 'Weather Meter' but what does it do? Or what should it do? It doesn't seem to change even when the weather changes from zero wind and unlimited visibility to 15 Metres per second and poor visibility with heavy rain.

03-23-14, 05:00 PM	#2
Aras Helmsman Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Istanbul, Turkey Posts: 102 Downloads: 48 Uploads: 0	I think you have added Stiebler4A_V16B1_Addon Patch for H.sie's hardcoded fixes. One of the features of the mod is it replaces Stealth Meter with Weather Meter. From Stieblers' Post about the mod : http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=196674 Additions: for Patch4A: Null Grid Mod (Depart with an assigned grid from ports that are not home bases Weather Meter (See the current fog-visibility on screen, instead of the Stealth Meter) Ship Speed Fix (As requested by Hitman - ships slow in strong winds/heavy seas) __________________ "Though I'm past 240 meters, I'm feeling very still and I think my u-boot knows which way to go ..."

03-24-14, 04:51 AM	#4
Aras Helmsman Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Istanbul, Turkey Posts: 102 Downloads: 48 Uploads: 0	I don't know much about the mods and their conflicts but your mod list seems fine to me. You have activated H.sie's and Stiebler's Add-on last as you should. I have installed Stiebler's add-on once and seeing it has many restrictions while using I uninstalled it. I didn't went for Weather Meter thinking I have to enable Stealth Meter from realism option. As far as I remember you had to change some files in order to activate Weather Meter. Maybe you should recheck each step in Stiebler's the manual. __________________ "Though I'm past 240 meters, I'm feeling very still and I think my u-boot knows which way to go ..." Last edited by Aras; 03-24-14 at 05:52 AM.

03-24-14, 11:43 AM	#6
tpalmer Swabbie Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 7 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	what to buy??? hi friends.........I have old dvd sh3 version...wont run on wind 8.....what version and where should I buy so I can run gw3, commander r3.2.....says I should buy for 10$ and donate.....yes???

03-24-14, 04:33 AM	#3
GJO Engineer Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: On the Oxford Canal in England Posts: 202 Downloads: 40 Uploads: 0	Thank you 'Aras' - you are quite correct the mod that I have just added is Stiebler's latest patch 'GWX3_Stiebler4B_Addon_for_V16B1' which I downloaded from the thread in your link. I posted my query using my cell phone whilst 'in-game' - so did not have full access to my mods list. What seems to have occurred is that the 'Weather Meter' is actually behaving as a 'Stealth Meter' because during a surfaced gunfire battle with an armed Passenger/Cargo ship - it changed rapidly until the target sank. I think I will have to re-arrange my mods to get it to work as it should. I currently have the following mods activated: Generic Mod Enabler - v2.6.0.157 [C:\Games\SilentHunterIII\MODS] GWX - 16km Atmosphere GWX - Enhanced Damage Effects GWX - No Medals on Crew LITE RADIO TRAFIC V1 Spirit of machines Torpedo damage Final ver2.0 Waterstream+Exhaust Combi V2.3 for GWX3 WB's Renown Replacement Wooden_Lifeboats_Mod_1.1 GWX_DFa-Flag&Pens_2010 V16B1 (JSGME) GWX3_Stiebler4B_Addon_for_V16B1

03-24-14, 10:53 AM	#5
GJO Engineer Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: On the Oxford Canal in England Posts: 202 Downloads: 40 Uploads: 0	OK! I have disabled the 'Stealth Meter' to increase my level of realism to 74% and that has got rid of the 'Yellow cloud' - which I didn't need because my Watch Crew are more than capable of providing perfectly adequate weather reports. I have also added 'GWX Integrated Orders' as a final mod (as recommended by 'BigWalleye' here and that works nicely. I have also edited the Data/Menu/en_menu.txt to substitute the various English language labelling with authentic German terminology - there was a mod for this but it gets overwritten by the 'V16B1' patch and the'GWX3_Stiebler4B_Addon_for_V16B' so I have edited it manually - it never seemed quite right to have English labelling in a German boat.And now for my next patrol . . .