Malaysia airlines B777 missing - Page 24

GoldenRivet · 03-19-14, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Admiral Halsey

That was different though. Landing on the Hudson in perfect conditions is nothing like trying to land on open ocean.

Correct you are. Theoretically it was still dark too, so there is an added challenge.

Tchocky · 03-19-14, 09:13 PM

Remember, those arcs described by the SATCOM pings aren't tracks, they're the range of possible positions the aircraft could have been in at one particular moment.

Given the heavy radar environment in China and Afghanistan, I think the aircraft was headed south.

I'm not comfortable making any supposition as to what was going on inside it.

CCIP · 03-19-14, 10:30 PM

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-2...lflow_facebook

more possible reports of debris, now off Australia. What are the chances of this being another false alarm?

d@rk51d3 · 03-19-14, 10:46 PM

Probably just more "asylum seekers".

CaptainHaplo · 03-19-14, 11:36 PM

Press conference says...

We don't know what it is - but we are gonna keep checking on it!

TarJak · 03-20-14, 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by d@rk51d3

Probably just more "asylum seekers".

LOL. More likely to be containers off a ship in that area of ocean.

Interesting that with all the tech in the world we're reliant on the mk1 eyeball for most of this search.

TarJak · 03-20-14, 02:11 AM

A good layperson description of ACARS the transponder and black box signalling that's been used to determine the likely search locations of the missing jet. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-03-1...ponder/5331124

Flamebatter90 · 03-20-14, 02:17 AM

The satellite images showing possible debris:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-03-2...-ocean/5334314

I honestly see nothing but swells.

GoldenRivet · 03-20-14, 04:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Flamebatter90

The satellite images showing possible debris:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-03-2...-ocean/5334314

Im no expert at interpreting satellite images, but thats a tough sell for my ol' eye balls.

It looks like the sun glinting off of a swell in the water.

at this point, i suppose everything has to be considered though. If you look at it from the right angle it almost looks like a partially submerged portion of a vertical stabilizer.

But i have seen a lot of clouds that looked like bunnies and chickens and only turned out to be water vapor

TarJak · 03-20-14, 05:09 AM

Be intersting to know if these are infrared or other non-visual wavelength images. If they are just optical cameras then I'd have to agree there's not much to see, but worth a look under the circumstances.

Jimbuna · 03-20-14, 05:41 AM

Here's hoping for a positive ID and a step nearer some form of closure for the families should the debris actually be from the plane.

Below is the BBC effort on the matter:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-26659951

Flamebatter90 · 03-20-14, 05:52 AM

If the length of the debris is correct at 24 meters, width would be around 15-16 meters judging from the image. Is there anything of that size on a 777? Especially after crash?

The images are also four days old, the debris could have drifted anywhere from there.

swamprat69er · 03-20-14, 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Flamebatter90

The satellite images showing possible debris:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-03-2...-ocean/5334314

I honestly see nothing but swells.

Picture one the object looks like a sea can.

The authorities are going to leave no tern unstoned in this one.

IF the relatives of the passengers sued MAL the lawsuit could be big enough to bankrupt them.

Jimbuna · 03-20-14, 06:14 AM

Could be pices of fuselage or wing plus satellite coverage of the area will probably be increased to cover large areas.

Mr Quatro · 03-20-14, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

But i have seen a lot of clouds that looked like bunnies and chickens and only turned out to be water vapor

Man, what are you drinking in the cockpit? No way am I going to fly with a pilot that see's bunnies and chickens in the clouds.

The pictures I saw looked like the items in question were floating just below the surface of the water ... perhaps water logged?

That was Sunday and this is Thursday and a storm has just passed through.

I hope they find something I'm tired of the news being Putin or the Malaysian 777 ...

03-19-14, 09:13 PM	#347
Tchocky Navy Seal Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 5,874 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	Remember, those arcs described by the SATCOM pings aren't tracks, they're the range of possible positions the aircraft could have been in at one particular moment. Given the heavy radar environment in China and Afghanistan, I think the aircraft was headed south. I'm not comfortable making any supposition as to what was going on inside it. __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-2...lflow_facebook more possible reports of debris, now off Australia. What are the chances of this being another false alarm? __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)

03-19-14, 11:36 PM	#350
CaptainHaplo Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 4,404 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 0	Press conference says... We don't know what it is - but we are gonna keep checking on it! __________________ Good Hunting! Captain Haplo

03-20-14, 05:41 AM	#356
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,525 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Here's hoping for a positive ID and a step nearer some form of closure for the families should the debris actually be from the plane. Below is the BBC effort on the matter: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-26659951 __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

03-20-14, 06:14 AM	#359
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,525 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Could be pices of fuselage or wing plus satellite coverage of the area will probably be increased to cover large areas. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

03-19-14, 10:46 PM	#349
d@rk51d3 Sea Lord Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Adelaide, South Australia Posts: 1,951 Downloads: 207 Uploads: 0	Probably just more "asylum seekers".

03-20-14, 02:11 AM	#352
TarJak Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 17,052 Downloads: 150 Uploads: 8	A good layperson description of ACARS the transponder and black box signalling that's been used to determine the likely search locations of the missing jet. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-03-1...ponder/5331124

03-20-14, 02:17 AM	#353
Flamebatter90 Medic Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 167 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	The satellite images showing possible debris: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-03-2...-ocean/5334314 I honestly see nothing but swells.

03-20-14, 05:09 AM	#355
TarJak Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 17,052 Downloads: 150 Uploads: 8	Be intersting to know if these are infrared or other non-visual wavelength images. If they are just optical cameras then I'd have to agree there's not much to see, but worth a look under the circumstances.

03-20-14, 05:52 AM	#357
Flamebatter90 Medic Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 167 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	If the length of the debris is correct at 24 meters, width would be around 15-16 meters judging from the image. Is there anything of that size on a 777? Especially after crash? The images are also four days old, the debris could have drifted anywhere from there.