UK Politics Thread

[Spiced_Rum]

RMT union boss Bob Crowe has died so there is now a vacancy for a job paying £145k salary.

Not a man to mince his words he said about Tone Bliar "He squandered a massive landslide from an electorate hungry for change, poured billions of public pounds into private pockets and accelerated the growing gap between rich and poor."

[Jimbuna]

Tony Blair...one of the few Tories that ever dared wear a red rosette.

[BossMark]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

Tony Blair...one of the few Tories that ever dared wear a red rosette.

Yes Jim, it was a real shame when Jim Smith died in 1994, we probably wouldn't have had Tory Blair as PM.

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by BossMark

Yes Jim, it was a real shame when Jim Smith died in 1994, we probably wouldn't have had Tory Blair as PM.

Debatable....he did get the popular vote in huge numbers against what many thought were overwhelming odds.

[Herr-Berbunch]

Is now an appropriate moment to arrange a party and celebrate like so many did when Maggie died?

[Jimbuna]

I must admit to feeling a little disappointed when I read this:

A future Labour government would not call an in/out referendum on the UK's membership of the EU unless it was being asked to transfer more powers to Brussels, Ed Miliband has said.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-26538420

[STEED]

Originally Posted by Spiced_Rum

RMT union boss Bob Crowe has died so there is now a vacancy for a job paying £145k salary.

Daily Mail lie, the wage was around £90k.

[Jimbuna]

According to the latest figures available from the Trade Union Certification Officer, as of 2012 Bob Crow's basic salary at the RMT was £89,805. The union also paid £10,313 of National Insurance contributions to the state and £34,429 into his pension pot in 2012. No car or chauffeur was provided. He was criticised for living in a council house, despite his five figure salary (often incorrectly cited as a 'six figure salary'.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Crow

Bob Crow died not knowing how well off he was, to judge by today’s news. The Daily Telegraph opens its tribute to him with the words: “Bob Crow defended his £145,000 salary, insisting: ‘I am worth it.’ And so he was.” Yesterday’s Standard referred to his “£145,000 salary.” On the BBC website he is described as having “lived in a council house, despite earning £145,000 a year.” The same words are on page 13 of The Times. Even Reuters, normally so reliable, reported that he was on “an annual salary of 145,000 pounds ($241,200)”

No he wasn’t. His annual salary was around £96,000. The confusion arises because when the Certification Officer examines trade union accounts, he asks not what the General Secretary is paid, but what it costs to employ him. I can’t find the latest figures on line, but the 2012 figures are here. Scroll down to page 11, and you find that Bob Crow’s salary was then £89,805. With £10,313 employers’ national insurance, and £34,429 pension contributions, which came to an overall pay package of £134,547.

Bob Crow was well paid, but never had anything approaching a £145,000 salary.

http://blogs.independent.co.uk/2014/...145000-salary/

[STEED]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

I must admit to feeling a little disappointed when I read this:



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-26538420

I agree jim, when it comes to the EU all three seem to pussy foot around obeying there EU masters.

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

According to the latest figures available from the Trade Union Certification Officer, as of 2012 Bob Crow's basic salary at the RMT was £89,805. The union also paid £10,313 of National Insurance contributions to the state and £34,429 into his pension pot in 2012. No car or chauffeur was provided. He was criticised for living in a council house, despite his five figure salary (often incorrectly cited as a 'six figure salary'.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Crow

Bob Crow died not knowing how well off he was, to judge by today’s news. The Daily Telegraph opens its tribute to him with the words: “Bob Crow defended his £145,000 salary, insisting: ‘I am worth it.’ And so he was.” Yesterday’s Standard referred to his “£145,000 salary.” On the BBC website he is described as having “lived in a council house, despite earning £145,000 a year.” The same words are on page 13 of The Times. Even Reuters, normally so reliable, reported that he was on “an annual salary of 145,000 pounds ($241,200)”

No he wasn’t. His annual salary was around £96,000. The confusion arises because when the Certification Officer examines trade union accounts, he asks not what the General Secretary is paid, but what it costs to employ him. I can’t find the latest figures on line, but the 2012 figures are here. Scroll down to page 11, and you find that Bob Crow’s salary was then £89,805. With £10,313 employers’ national insurance, and £34,429 pension contributions, which came to an overall pay package of £134,547.

Bob Crow was well paid, but never had anything approaching a £145,000 salary.

http://blogs.independent.co.uk/2014/...145000-salary/

That is similar to what the company and much of the press did on the Grangemouth oil refinery staff dispute.
Add up all the operating costs, divide it by the number of employees, then claim that the resulting figure is what each employee is getting paid as a wage.

[STEED]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

According to the latest figures available from the Trade Union Certification Officer, as of 2012 Bob Crow's basic salary at the RMT was £89,805.

Out of date, it was as reported on the radio a few days ago around £90 thousand mark, forgot the exact figure but it was in the 90's as I recall.

Even so that filthy dirty scumbag rag the DM got it wrong so what is new with that? They love twisting the facts and spreading there lies and hatred just so they can sell that vile rag of there's which is unfit to wipe your arse on in case you catch something off it.

Excuse me I need to rinse my mouth out with my mouthwash.

[Spiced_Rum]

Originally Posted by STEED

Daily Mail lie, the wage was around £90k.

I read it on your BBC news website (forgot to put in the link to source), so thought it must have been reliable considering the BBC is a left of centre organisation.

[Spiced_Rum]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

I must admit to feeling a little disappointed when I read this:



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-26538420

Have to agree with Jim , it reads like Mr Milibean scoring an own goal by ignoring the public desire for a chance to vote on their future. If Lord Mandy supports this plan then it must be a bad idea, like giving up much of the UK rebate. Ed must be getting pressure from the banks and big business not to leave the EU or wants a job on the Brussels gravy train in the future. How can he support the Scotch referendum on leaving the UK but not allow the UK to hold one on leaving Europe. Surely if Europe is so good then the voters will choose to stay in by a large majority and there is no risk of leaving, so hold a democratic referendum and then carry on as normal.

[BossMark]

I too am disappointed about Eds decision, but I suppose it better than lying by saying he will give a referendum if\when Labour get in and then does not.

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Spiced_Rum

Ed must be getting pressure from the banks and big business

In one...he's gambling on getting the Tories backbone supporters on the side of Labour.