Changing to Bow mount cannon

mikesn9 · 03-05-14, 07:32 AM

Everytime I replace the stern mount with a bow mount, when I look at crew assignment page, there is NO cannon, only AA gun.

Is there a special way to get this done and be able to assign crew?(Gato class, in Pearl).

Thanks

Mike
ETR2(SS) SSBN609

ETR3(SS) · 03-05-14, 09:40 AM

Don't have an answer for ya but wanted to say welcome aboard brother!

THEBERBSTER · 03-05-14, 09:58 AM

A warm welcome “milkesn9“ to the Subsim family.

Can’t help you with this but I am sure you will find someone here to help you.

Snarf · 03-05-14, 11:00 AM

There is a fix, you have to go into the save game UPC file, search for a phrase and delete it, I forget right now what the phrase is but it also allows you to have double deck guns manned. There is another thread about that somewhere, but it should be the same fix

Sniper297 · 03-05-14, 01:12 PM

Worst bug in the game, the very first thing I do when starting a career is change the cannon from aft to forward. Go on the first patrol with a stern gun and you have a stern gun forever more, you can't change it to a bow gun next time you're in port.

As Snarf says there's a way to fix that somewhere in the save game files, I just tried it now and lost the entire crew compartment picture and still had a stern gun. Gonna take some hunting or trial and error to find the actual fix, there are two folders and a lot of files for each save game in
C:\Documents and Settings\Whatever Your Name Is\My Documents\SH4\data\cfg\

Why in blazes these idiots didn't do like every other game programmers and put the savegames in a subfolder of the game folder itself I have no clue.

TG626 · 03-05-14, 01:31 PM

I changed my gun from aft to fore mid career and had this trouble, but 2 patrols later (before I went hunting for an answer) I got a NEW boat and made sure I made the switch before taking her out the first time. All was well then, so at the very least you can "fix" it that way...

Snarf · 03-05-14, 03:28 PM

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...+aft+deck+guns

found the thread, that should fix the issue

merc4ulfate · 03-05-14, 08:39 PM

I like having an aft gun for pesky escorts chasing me. If you have the 4 or 5 gun you can make them break off their attack and sink them and get out alive.

Rammstein0991 · 03-05-14, 09:21 PM

if you got escorts chasing you, why are you on the surface?

THEBERBSTER · 03-06-14, 06:22 AM

Reading all the post regarding bow and aft guns.

I did not want two guns. I like firing a "Bow Gun" when chasing a merchant.

I started a new career.

I selected a "Sargo" type sub.

Posted myself to the "Asiatic Fleet"

In the office I opened the sub.

I removed the two "Deck Gun Crew" from the showing "Aft Deck Gun" and put them both in "Damage Control Team"

Went to the update screen and selected a "Bow Gun"

Went back to the "Crew Screen"

Now showing "Fore Gun Deck"

Moved the two crew back.

Looking good.

I will remove the two "Gun Crew" again before I return to Port. I do not know whether this will make any difference. It just feels the right thing to do!

mikesn9 · 03-06-14, 06:55 AM

Thanks for all the help guys.
When I returned to Pearl, I had the opprtunity to upgrade to a new boat, so I took it.
It came with the bow-mounted gun, so problem solved. (for me anyway)

Mike

Sailor Steve · 03-06-14, 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rammstein0991

if you got escorts chasing you, why are you on the surface?

A good question, and another place where the game lets you get away with things. Yes, you have a 4" or 5" gun. The destroyer has four of them at least. His ship is designed to float. Yours is designed to sink. If you can win gun battles on a regular basis, something is wrong.

Snarf · 03-06-14, 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

A good question, and another place where the game lets you get away with things. Yes, you have a 4" or 5" gun. The destroyer has four of them at least. His ship is designed to float. Yours is designed to sink. If you can win gun battles on a regular basis, something is wrong.

Something IS wrong I've managed to "find" an automatic 4"/50 cannon with a 300 round per minute cyclic rate that fires 16" shells

Sayonara Yamato!

Rammstein0991 · 03-08-14, 12:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

A good question, and another place where the game lets you get away with things. Yes, you have a 4" or 5" gun. The destroyer has four of them at least. His ship is designed to float. Yours is designed to sink. If you can win gun battles on a regular basis, something is wrong.

lol, ^this

03-05-14, 07:32 AM	#1
mikesn9 Sonar Guy Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Sarasota Florida Posts: 391 Downloads: 68 Uploads: 0	Changing to Bow mount cannon Everytime I replace the stern mount with a bow mount, when I look at crew assignment page, there is NO cannon, only AA gun. Is there a special way to get this done and be able to assign crew?(Gato class, in Pearl). Thanks Mike ETR2(SS) SSBN609

03-05-14, 09:40 AM	#2
ETR3(SS) Ocean Warrior Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Between test depth and periscope depth Posts: 3,021 Downloads: 175 Uploads: 16	Don't have an answer for ya but wanted to say welcome aboard brother! __________________ USS Kentucky SSBN 737 (G) Comms Div 2003-2006 Qualified 19 November 03 Yes I was really on a submarine.

03-05-14, 09:58 AM	#3
THEBERBSTER Growing Old Disgracefully Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Hythe - Southampton Posts: 9,609 Downloads: 1133 Uploads: 0	A warm welcome “milkesn9“ to the Subsim family. Can’t help you with this but I am sure you will find someone here to help you. __________________ LSH3-2015 <> TUTORIALS <> ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW <> ALL IN ONE PLACE SH4 <> TUTORIALS <> HOW TO DO IT <> INFORMATION <> DOWNLOAD LINKS SH5 <> TUTORIALS <> HOW TO DO IT <> INFORMATION <> DOWNLOAD LINKS Always Here To Help A Fellow 'Subber' \| Need An Answer to A Question Just Send Me A PM

03-05-14, 11:00 AM	#4
Snarf Officer Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: USS Tuna out of Pearl Harbor Posts: 243 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 10	There is a fix, you have to go into the save game UPC file, search for a phrase and delete it, I forget right now what the phrase is but it also allows you to have double deck guns manned. There is another thread about that somewhere, but it should be the same fix __________________ "Damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead!" -David Farragut (probably repeated by many WWII sub skippers)

03-05-14, 01:31 PM	#6
TG626 Lieutenant Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: USS Seal - Somewhere in the Pacific Posts: 268 Downloads: 141 Uploads: 3	I changed my gun from aft to fore mid career and had this trouble, but 2 patrols later (before I went hunting for an answer) I got a NEW boat and made sure I made the switch before taking her out the first time. All was well then, so at the very least you can "fix" it that way... __________________ T. E. Thompson, LTCDR Commanding Officer, U.S.S. Seal (formerly S-40 (SS-145))

03-05-14, 01:12 PM	#5
Sniper297 The Old Man Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Philadelphia Shipyard Brig Posts: 1,386 Downloads: 160 Uploads: 19	Worst bug in the game, the very first thing I do when starting a career is change the cannon from aft to forward. Go on the first patrol with a stern gun and you have a stern gun forever more, you can't change it to a bow gun next time you're in port. As Snarf says there's a way to fix that somewhere in the save game files, I just tried it now and lost the entire crew compartment picture and still had a stern gun. Gonna take some hunting or trial and error to find the actual fix, there are two folders and a lot of files for each save game in C:\Documents and Settings\Whatever Your Name Is\My Documents\SH4\data\cfg\ Why in blazes these idiots didn't do like every other game programmers and put the savegames in a subfolder of the game folder itself I have no clue.

03-05-14, 03:28 PM	#7
Snarf Officer Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: USS Tuna out of Pearl Harbor Posts: 243 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 10	http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...+aft+deck+guns found the thread, that should fix the issue __________________ "Damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead!" -David Farragut (probably repeated by many WWII sub skippers)

03-05-14, 08:39 PM	#8
merc4ulfate DILLIGAF Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: florida Posts: 2,058 Downloads: 210 Uploads: 0	I like having an aft gun for pesky escorts chasing me. If you have the 4 or 5 gun you can make them break off their attack and sink them and get out alive. __________________ Self-education is, I firmly believe, the only kind of education there is. ~Isaac Asimov~ Mercfulfate 将補日本帝國海軍

03-05-14, 09:21 PM	#9
Rammstein0991 Engineer Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: NC USA Posts: 219 Downloads: 164 Uploads: 0	if you got escorts chasing you, why are you on the surface?

03-06-14, 06:22 AM	#10
THEBERBSTER Growing Old Disgracefully Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Hythe - Southampton Posts: 9,609 Downloads: 1133 Uploads: 0	Reading all the post regarding bow and aft guns. I did not want two guns. I like firing a "Bow Gun" when chasing a merchant. I started a new career. I selected a "Sargo" type sub. Posted myself to the "Asiatic Fleet" In the office I opened the sub. I removed the two "Deck Gun Crew" from the showing "Aft Deck Gun" and put them both in "Damage Control Team" Went to the update screen and selected a "Bow Gun" Went back to the "Crew Screen" Now showing "Fore Gun Deck" Moved the two crew back. Looking good. I will remove the two "Gun Crew" again before I return to Port. I do not know whether this will make any difference. It just feels the right thing to do! __________________ LSH3-2015 <> TUTORIALS <> ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW <> ALL IN ONE PLACE SH4 <> TUTORIALS <> HOW TO DO IT <> INFORMATION <> DOWNLOAD LINKS SH5 <> TUTORIALS <> HOW TO DO IT <> INFORMATION <> DOWNLOAD LINKS Always Here To Help A Fellow 'Subber' \| Need An Answer to A Question Just Send Me A PM

03-06-14, 06:55 AM	#11
mikesn9 Sonar Guy Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Sarasota Florida Posts: 391 Downloads: 68 Uploads: 0	It became moot Thanks for all the help guys. When I returned to Pearl, I had the opprtunity to upgrade to a new boat, so I took it. It came with the bow-mounted gun, so problem solved. (for me anyway) Mike