I give up

Patboot · 03-01-14, 12:58 PM

For some reason, I can't get SH3 to run again on this machine.
I've tried every trick I can think of, but it still refuses to run.
I can only think it's the Win SP-3.

VONHARRIS · 03-01-14, 01:00 PM

Some more details please.
An idea might come up.

Don't give up yet.

Jimbuna · 03-01-14, 01:04 PM

I'm not sure SP-3 will be the cause, I'm farly confident I ran the game on XP with SP-3 installed in the past.

Mittelwaechter · 03-01-14, 01:46 PM

Some solid details on your rig, your SH3 version and all the tricks you have thought of and we'll get you running...

Herr-Berbunch · 03-01-14, 01:59 PM

You say run again, when did it last work successfully? Have you reinstalled SH3? At what point does it fail to work?

Jimbuna · 03-01-14, 03:11 PM

I presume you performed a registry clean after deleting the original SH3 folder prior to reinstalling the game.

GreyBeard · 03-01-14, 03:54 PM

How smoothly did Windows Update go after the reformat/reinstall of XP? Reason I ask is because I did the same thing on my work computer computer about 5/6 months and had a horrible time with the updates. The Background Intelligent Transfer Service kept getting deleted, which stopped the update service from working properly. After googling the problem it appeared there were a great number of people experiencing windows update problems with XP.

I noticed in one of your other posts you mentioned indexing. Try turning it off or on as the case may be. Some years ago I had another game, Grand Prix Legends, that refused to run on my XP machine unless indexing was turned on.

Patboot · 03-01-14, 05:01 PM

Thanks for the replies: The game ran fine on this machine in the past. I had to do a reformat (falcon NW factory disc, no new hardware) and did a complete windows XP pro update. In the past I had NOT installed XP SP-3.
Indeexinfg was on- WTF I need indexing for I dunno, I allowed everthing to install/run whatever it wanted...

Head hurts

Sailor Steve · 03-01-14, 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

I'm not sure SP-3 will be the cause, I'm farly confident I ran the game on XP with SP-3 installed in the past.

So that's why you asked me about SP-3 earlier. I didn't look then, and now that I'm looking I don't know where to look. I can't find the Service Packs anywhere.

GreyBeard · 03-01-14, 06:34 PM

SP-3 for XP was released April, 2008. Surely someone would have complained about SH3 having a problem with SP-3 earlier, no? A corrupt installation I can see, hence the reason I asked about Windows Update. Was there any problem installing SH3, or just that it won't run?

Mittelwaechter · 03-01-14, 07:40 PM

To check the XP Service Pack - rightclick "My Computer" -> Properties -> General Tab

It should read your OS and the installed Service Pack - iirc (has been some time now)

Don't install SH3 into the default path - as SP3 came with some sort of UAC.

UAC protects certain directories and you may have trouble with modding the game.

Jimbuna · 03-02-14, 07:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mittelwaechter

To check the XP Service Pack - rightclick "My Computer" -> Properties -> General Tab

It should read your OS and the installed Service Pack - iirc (has been some time now)

Don't install SH3 into the default path - as SP3 came with some sort of UAC.

UAC protects certain directories and you may have trouble with modding the game.

Yep, that reinforces my thinking....the game used to be installed on my D drive on my old system

Sailor Steve · 03-02-14, 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GreyBeard

SP-3 for XP was released April, 2008. Surely someone would have complained about SH3 having a problem with SP-3 earlier, no?

A good point.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mittelwaechter

To check the XP Service Pack - rightclick "My Computer" -> Properties -> General Tab

Thanks for straighting out my poor old head. Yes indeed, I have SP3, and SH3 runs perfectly.

Patboot · 03-02-14, 02:02 PM

So, try to reinstall on a separate drive then?

Or perhaps reformat again, but use the starfarce-free version? Where would I find that, at UBI?
Back in a bit.

Jimbuna · 03-02-14, 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Patboot

So, try to reinstall on a separate drive then?

Or perhaps reformat again, but use the starfarce-free version? Where would I find that, at UBI?
Back in a bit.

Got to be worth a try...good luck.

03-01-14, 12:58 PM	#1
Patboot Engineer Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 212 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I give up For some reason, I can't get SH3 to run again on this machine. I've tried every trick I can think of, but it still refuses to run. I can only think it's the Win SP-3.

03-01-14, 01:04 PM	#3
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,525 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	I'm not sure SP-3 will be the cause, I'm farly confident I ran the game on XP with SP-3 installed in the past. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

03-01-14, 01:46 PM	#4
Mittelwaechter The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,304 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	Some solid details on your rig, your SH3 version and all the tricks you have thought of and we'll get you running... __________________ 10 happy wolves rear 90 blinded, ensnared sheep. 90 happy sheep banish the wolves. Arrest the 1% - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQ6hg1oNeGE

03-01-14, 01:59 PM	#5
Herr-Berbunch Kaiser Bill's batman Join Date: May 2010 Location: AN72 Posts: 13,203 Downloads: 76 Uploads: 0	You say run again, when did it last work successfully? Have you reinstalled SH3? At what point does it fail to work? __________________

03-01-14, 03:11 PM	#6
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,525 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	I presume you performed a registry clean after deleting the original SH3 folder prior to reinstalling the game. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

03-01-14, 01:00 PM	#2
VONHARRIS Konteradmiral Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Greece Posts: 1,992 Downloads: 300 Uploads: 0	Some more details please. An idea might come up. Don't give up yet.

03-01-14, 03:54 PM	#7
GreyBeard Engineer Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: LI, NY Posts: 209 Downloads: 257 Uploads: 2	How smoothly did Windows Update go after the reformat/reinstall of XP? Reason I ask is because I did the same thing on my work computer computer about 5/6 months and had a horrible time with the updates. The Background Intelligent Transfer Service kept getting deleted, which stopped the update service from working properly. After googling the problem it appeared there were a great number of people experiencing windows update problems with XP. I noticed in one of your other posts you mentioned indexing. Try turning it off or on as the case may be. Some years ago I had another game, Grand Prix Legends, that refused to run on my XP machine unless indexing was turned on.

03-01-14, 05:01 PM	#8
Patboot Engineer Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 212 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Thanks for the replies: The game ran fine on this machine in the past. I had to do a reformat (falcon NW factory disc, no new hardware) and did a complete windows XP pro update. In the past I had NOT installed XP SP-3. Indeexinfg was on- WTF I need indexing for I dunno, I allowed everthing to install/run whatever it wanted... Head hurts

03-01-14, 06:34 PM	#10
GreyBeard Engineer Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: LI, NY Posts: 209 Downloads: 257 Uploads: 2	SP-3 for XP was released April, 2008. Surely someone would have complained about SH3 having a problem with SP-3 earlier, no? A corrupt installation I can see, hence the reason I asked about Windows Update. Was there any problem installing SH3, or just that it won't run?

03-01-14, 07:40 PM	#11
Mittelwaechter The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,304 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	To check the XP Service Pack - rightclick "My Computer" -> Properties -> General Tab It should read your OS and the installed Service Pack - iirc (has been some time now) Don't install SH3 into the default path - as SP3 came with some sort of UAC. UAC protects certain directories and you may have trouble with modding the game. __________________ 10 happy wolves rear 90 blinded, ensnared sheep. 90 happy sheep banish the wolves. Arrest the 1% - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQ6hg1oNeGE

03-02-14, 02:02 PM	#14
Patboot Engineer Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 212 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	So, try to reinstall on a separate drive then? Or perhaps reformat again, but use the starfarce-free version? Where would I find that, at UBI? Back in a bit.