Just a few quick questions from a new SH series newbie

Sjizzle · 02-22-14, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by RushTheBus

I appreciate the reply Cherbert. I still feel quite overwhelmed even with the wolves of steel. I can't seem to get the TDW patcher ever working properly (despite reading the guides).

That said, when i did have it running the immersion was great but i couldn't manage to cobble together a firing solution that would actually hit a target. Might me just a bit too hardcore for a complete franchise newbie.

At this point i think I'm just going to choose some of the environment / graphic related mods and go from there. *shrug*

take a look here how to use the generic patcher

TG626 · 02-22-14, 06:59 PM

I took to rolling my own combos of simple mods, in sh 4 I have a mod that adds a nomograpgh to the nab map, another that makes the medals real navy medals, and another that adds a green filter to the observation scope.

These gave that same warning, and always for the same file. With a bit of examination I realized that each one had taken the "stock" version of that file (menu_1024_748.INI) and added or edited something.

So I made a combined copy of all the other files in each mod, and then edited my own inini to have the changes of each mods INI. Theresult was all of the mods happily coexsisting.

Of course this could take some experimentation to pull off depending on the mods, and as they say YMMV.

RushTheBus · 02-22-14, 08:33 PM

I think the biggest issue is that i don't even understand what I'm doing with these patchers and such. It's all very complicated and much different than modding other games such that are based on more popular engines (ARMA, Quake, Unreal, Source, Etc).

That's the biggest struggle, i want to figure out what I'm actually doing and modifying and what it means so if and when it goes wrong i can trouble shoot it.

THE_MASK · 02-22-14, 08:36 PM

When you have worked out how to install mods once , it is easy from there .

GT182 · 02-22-14, 11:17 PM

Sober, mods are one thing but the Patcher is something different altogether. If you don't know or understand what you're doing it's a daunting task. Especially for me and others.

It's too bad everything needed to be done with the Patcher can't be done in TDW's UI mods for the Cfgs.... just instal the mod with JSGME and it's done. I tried once and screwed the pooch on changing the necessary Cfgs. That's one reason some of us are very leary of using TDW's mods where the Cfgs need to be changed. Do it wrong and you have more than mod soup.

RushTheBus · 02-22-14, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by GT182

Sober, mods are one thing but the Patcher is something different altogether. If you don't know or understand what you're doing it's a daunting task. Especially for me and others.

It's too bad everything needed to be done with the Patcher can't be done in TDW's UI mods for the Cfgs.... just instal the mod with JSGME and it's done. I tried once and screwed the pooch on changing the necessary Cfgs. That's one reason some of us are very leary of using TDW's mods where the Cfgs need to be changed. Do it wrong and you have more than mod soup.

Thanks for phrasing it better GT. I understand how to install the mods and by trial and error i understand how things interact with JSGME. That was never really the issue. I enjoy the new UIs that may if you guys put out but understanding the patcher and making it work makes me dizzy. I spent the better part of yesterday trying in vain to make sense of it!

THE_MASK · 02-23-14, 03:10 AM

Re the EXE patcher
Extract it and place the complete folder on the desktop .
Click on the EXE patcher (application)and click on file open then follow the prompts until the patches appear.
Download my GES file and extract it anywhere .
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/down...o=file&id=4331
Click on the patcher and then click on File/restore snapshot then click on my GES file to apply the patches .
Copy the SH5 icon from the SH5 main game folder and send shortcut to desktop .
Click on the Desktop SH5 icon to launch SH5 .

02-22-14, 06:59 PM	#2
TG626 Lieutenant Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: USS Seal - Somewhere in the Pacific Posts: 268 Downloads: 141 Uploads: 3	I took to rolling my own combos of simple mods, in sh 4 I have a mod that adds a nomograpgh to the nab map, another that makes the medals real navy medals, and another that adds a green filter to the observation scope. These gave that same warning, and always for the same file. With a bit of examination I realized that each one had taken the "stock" version of that file (menu_1024_748.INI) and added or edited something. So I made a combined copy of all the other files in each mod, and then edited my own inini to have the changes of each mods INI. Theresult was all of the mods happily coexsisting. Of course this could take some experimentation to pull off depending on the mods, and as they say YMMV. __________________ T. E. Thompson, LTCDR Commanding Officer, U.S.S. Seal (formerly S-40 (SS-145))

02-22-14, 11:17 PM	#5
GT182 Ocean Warrior Join Date: May 2005 Location: New Castle of Delaware Posts: 3,231 Downloads: 658 Uploads: 0	Sober, mods are one thing but the Patcher is something different altogether. If you don't know or understand what you're doing it's a daunting task. Especially for me and others. It's too bad everything needed to be done with the Patcher can't be done in TDW's UI mods for the Cfgs.... just instal the mod with JSGME and it's done. I tried once and screwed the pooch on changing the necessary Cfgs. That's one reason some of us are very leary of using TDW's mods where the Cfgs need to be changed. Do it wrong and you have more than mod soup. __________________ Gary No Borders, No Language, No Culture =s No Country I'm a Deplorable, and proud of it.

02-22-14, 08:33 PM	#3
RushTheBus Engineer Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 206 Downloads: 211 Uploads: 0	I think the biggest issue is that i don't even understand what I'm doing with these patchers and such. It's all very complicated and much different than modding other games such that are based on more popular engines (ARMA, Quake, Unreal, Source, Etc). That's the biggest struggle, i want to figure out what I'm actually doing and modifying and what it means so if and when it goes wrong i can trouble shoot it.

02-22-14, 08:36 PM	#4
THE_MASK Ace of the deep . Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 9,226 Downloads: 901 Uploads: 73	When you have worked out how to install mods once , it is easy from there .

02-23-14, 03:10 AM	#7
THE_MASK Ace of the deep . Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 9,226 Downloads: 901 Uploads: 73	Re the EXE patcher Extract it and place the complete folder on the desktop . Click on the EXE patcher (application)and click on file open then follow the prompts until the patches appear. Download my GES file and extract it anywhere . http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/down...o=file&id=4331 Click on the patcher and then click on File/restore snapshot then click on my GES file to apply the patches . Copy the SH5 icon from the SH5 main game folder and send shortcut to desktop . Click on the Desktop SH5 icon to launch SH5 .