[REL] sobers Real_Nav_Bouys_Charts SH5

THE_MASK · 02-12-14, 05:02 PM

I wonder what intelligence they had on Scapa Flow before the raid apart from block ships

Also imo there shouldn't be any DDs or enemy vessels around Holm sound and no vessels east of Scapa during Total Germany campaign . It should be easy to get into .
You could place 2 block ships close together so a sub just squeezes thru . I could add shallow water either side . With Reworked Submarine Damage you wouldn't want to hit the block ships .
No more easy targets after Total Germany though .
Re Attu , less intelligence on my nav bouy map . Not the navmap .

gap · 02-13-14, 06:58 AM

Found a website with free on-line nautical charts:

http://map.openseamap.org/

For Addu Atoll, it only shows a minor beacon on Bushy Islet (the small island at the northen entrance to the atoll, missing in SH5). No lateral buoys.

Here is my rework of Trevally/Sober's map, featuring batimetric lines from the website mentioned above, but with buoys as per sober's chart. The style is roughly based on real Kriegsmarine charts as seen on kartengruppe.it:

raymond6751 · 02-13-14, 07:13 AM

Way to go Sober, and also Gap for the chart website link.

Now we really are sailing in a real setting. I can hardly see the buoys through the murk caused by Sober's storm clouds. Ah there, through a haze of Sober's Lights is the channel.

Ahh, home again.

Trevally. · 02-13-14, 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gap

Found a website with free on-line nautical charts:

http://map.openseamap.org/

For Addu Atoll, it only shows a minor beacon on Bushy Islet (the small island at the northen entrance to the atoll, missing in SH5). No lateral buoys.

Here is my rework of Trevally/Sober's map, featuring batimetric lines from the website mentioned above, but with buoys as per sober's chart. The style is roughly based on real Kriegsmarine charts as seen on kartengruppe.it:

Looks great Gap

gap · 02-13-14, 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trevally.

Looks great Gap

Tanks Trevally,

I will see what I can do with the other port entrances.

On a side note: can you please have a look at the websites I have linked in my previous posts here, especially the last one? From there you can get many clues on how to make OH's buoys even more realistic.

gap · 02-13-14, 10:22 AM

Roadsted of Brest with OH's buoys:

...and this is thea real naval chart for the same area

Katze · 02-13-14, 12:03 PM

I've never checked in-game, but does the game follow the (currently named) Region A and Region B differences?

EG: Americas Red/Green reversed from Europe.

I know the regions were set out in 1980, but previous to that I assume they were reversed as well:
"Previously there had been 30 different buoyage systems, before IALA rationalised the system. In 1980 on a conference convened by IALA, they agreed to adopt the rules of a new combined system, which combined the previous two systems (A and B) into one system, with two regions (A and B)."

02-12-14, 05:02 PM	#1
THE_MASK Ace of the deep . Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 9,226 Downloads: 901 Uploads: 73	I wonder what intelligence they had on Scapa Flow before the raid apart from block ships Also imo there shouldn't be any DDs or enemy vessels around Holm sound and no vessels east of Scapa during Total Germany campaign . It should be easy to get into . You could place 2 block ships close together so a sub just squeezes thru . I could add shallow water either side . With Reworked Submarine Damage you wouldn't want to hit the block ships . No more easy targets after Total Germany though . Re Attu , less intelligence on my nav bouy map . Not the navmap . Last edited by THE_MASK; 02-12-14 at 06:08 PM.

02-13-14, 06:58 AM	#2
gap Navy Seal Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: CJ8937 Posts: 8,215 Downloads: 793 Uploads: 10	Found a website with free on-line nautical charts: http://map.openseamap.org/ For Addu Atoll, it only shows a minor beacon on Bushy Islet (the small island at the northen entrance to the atoll, missing in SH5). No lateral buoys. Here is my rework of Trevally/Sober's map, featuring batimetric lines from the website mentioned above, but with buoys as per sober's chart. The style is roughly based on real Kriegsmarine charts as seen on kartengruppe.it: __________________ _____________________ \|May the Force be with you!\| ...\/ Last edited by gap; 02-13-14 at 07:18 AM.

02-13-14, 07:13 AM	#3
raymond6751 Admirable Mike Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 1,338 Downloads: 421 Uploads: 0	superb Way to go Sober, and also Gap for the chart website link. Now we really are sailing in a real setting. I can hardly see the buoys through the murk caused by Sober's storm clouds. Ah there, through a haze of Sober's Lights is the channel. Ahh, home again. __________________ Game Designer: Close The Atlantic - World War Three https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/...orld-war-three

02-13-14, 10:22 AM	#6
gap Navy Seal Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: CJ8937 Posts: 8,215 Downloads: 793 Uploads: 10	Roadsted of Brest with OH's buoys: ...and this is thea real naval chart for the same area __________________ _____________________ \|May the Force be with you!\| ...\/

02-13-14, 12:03 PM	#7
Katze Loader Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 85 Downloads: 186 Uploads: 0	I've never checked in-game, but does the game follow the (currently named) Region A and Region B differences? EG: Americas Red/Green reversed from Europe. I know the regions were set out in 1980, but previous to that I assume they were reversed as well: "Previously there had been 30 different buoyage systems, before IALA rationalised the system. In 1980 on a conference convened by IALA, they agreed to adopt the rules of a new combined system, which combined the previous two systems (A and B) into one system, with two regions (A and B)."