Migration always means poverty migration, not wealth migration

[Skybird]

And still, Oberon: the major, dominant, almost o,mnipresent drive behind migration is not marrying a partner from a different nation, wealth you want to spent in travelling, and curiosity alone: but poverty. The bad living conditions at home. The inability to get a job at home. The hope to have a less miserable life somewhere else. And historically, it never has been any different. The need is what drives people, not the boredom from luxury one already has.

[Oberon]

Originally Posted by MH

Slowing down the flow might be important part of solution.

Is just about this?
Is it just about this and not crime and poverty it brings to some towns.
Dont forget that some people have to live with this ...its not some political or ethical issue for them.

It funny to watch how those liberal? policies strengthen the radical right.
Not really funny but you know what i mean.

I can't disagree, cutting down the 'pull' factor would help as part of a concentrated campaign focusing on 'Push' and 'Pull' factors, however it's got to be carefully managed so that you don't cut off your own nose to spite your face, to use a proverb. A lot of the British governments responses to immigration have been primarily related to internal politics and the unexpected popularity of UKIP, and as such the responses have been mainly knee-jerk in nature. Fortunately UKIP are doing a pretty good job of sinking their own ship (or, if one were to take a more conspiratorial tone, there has conveniently for the Conservatives been a sudden outpouring and promotion of radicalist nonsensical UKIP statements, gay rain for example) but they've done enough to spook the Conservatives who are looking towards the next election.

There are also social issues to consider in large areas of migration, yes, but it would be unfair and untrue to label every migrational area as a hotbed of crime. I recall in the London Riots, a group of West-Indian men banding together to protect their street from the troubles.
Basically, it's more down to human nature and behaviour than it is down to migration itself.

Originally Posted by Skybird

And still, Oberon: the major, dominant, almost o,mnipresent drive behind migration is not marrying a partner from a different nation, wealth you want to spent in travelling, and curiosity alone: but poverty. The bad living conditions at home. The inability to get a job at home. The hope to have a less miserable life somewhere else. And historically, it never has been any different. The need is what drives people, not the boredom from luxury one already has.

I see where you're coming from here, a rather broad definition of poverty, but not an inaccurate one, however in the context of the opening post of this thread, the poverty you refer to was much more specific, focusing on financial rather than living conditions (although it could be argued that the two go hand in hand).
That being said, I do admit, you have a good point, certainly in that definition the most common form of migration is through poverty. However, that is still not an absolute, so one has to always be wary of making them.

[MH]

Human nature is something to be reckoned with when making decisions on this scale on social/economic engineering.
The EU is pulling too hard.