Everything wrong with The Hunt for Red October

Sailor Steve · 02-03-14, 10:04 AM

Um, "Gates" is her middle name; first name Cheryl.

u crank · 02-03-14, 10:45 AM

I watched less than a minute and got bored or disinterested. So what. I guess you could do that with any movie. Some people must like it though. He has quite a list of Everything wrong with....

ReallyDedPoet · 02-03-14, 11:01 AM

I view most movies as entertainment, so if it is not accurate then no big deal really. There are not to many movies that you could not pick apart at
the end of the day.

Aktungbby · 02-03-14, 11:28 AM

Clancy wasn't crazy about the movie versions of his books. He complained that Ford was too old to play Jack Ryan, and he regretted the lack of creative control, saying: "Giving your book to Hollywood is like turning your daughter over to a pimp." Father knows best!

Wolferz · 02-03-14, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Um, "Gates" is her middle name; first name Cheryl.

Infatuated enough to know her full name?

Do you claim Wesley?

Wolferz · 02-03-14, 01:58 PM

We don't need to hunt for RedOctober,
He's in Missoura.

u crank · 02-03-14, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolferz

We don't need to hunt for RedOctober,
He's in Missoura.

Sailor Steve · 02-03-14, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolferz

Infatuated enough to know her full name?

Do you claim Wesley?

Not infatuated at all. The name just sounded wrong to me so I looked it up. Like Susan Alexandra "Sigourney" Weaver. Like Laura McKenzie Phillips. Like Deborah Jo Hunter Tylo. Like Lady Sarah "Lalla" Ward.

AngusJS · 02-03-14, 06:27 PM

I always wondered why the Soviets didn't just deploy a towed sonar array, rather than engage in "Crazy Ivans".

Admiral Lutjens · 02-03-14, 06:33 PM

I loved the movie, but the book was amazing.

Red Storm Rising is one of the all time best books, ever.

mapuc · 02-03-14, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Admiral Lutjens

I loved the movie, but the book was amazing.

Red Storm Rising is one of the all time best books, ever.

I agree on that. Wonder if they have or have plan on making a movie based on Red Storm Rising.

Markus

Admiral Lutjens · 02-03-14, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by mapuc

I agree on that. Wonder if they have or have plan on making a movie based on Red Storm Rising.

Markus

I seriously doubt it.

And if they did, they'd probably ruin it or make it politically correct. Clooney, Brad Pitt, or Matt Damon or something would be in the lead role.

razark · 02-03-14, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by mapuc

I agree on that. Wonder if they have or have plan on making a movie based on Red Storm Rising.

Movie? No. They'd have to make a miniseries to capture it. I would love to see it made, though. Just as long as they keep it in the '80s, instead of trying to set it in the current era.

Kapitan_Phillips · 02-04-14, 11:39 PM

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Lady Sarah "Lalla" Ward.

Ahhh Romana...

Terrax · 02-05-14, 08:18 AM

The thing that always stuck out to me what the Tu-142 attack on the RO. As I recall, the bomber-converted-ASW aircraft carried around a dozen or so light weight torpedoes. In the movie they dropped a single light torp on the RO. The Typhoons were built to be very hard to sink & I think the single light torp would have had little to no chance of sinking her. When the TU-142 found the RO, they would have dropped everything they had.

In reality, if the Russians were hunting a rouge sub, they would have flooded the Atlantic with 142's & Il-38 Mays searching for it. Had the 142 detected the RO, it would have stayed on station (fuel permitting) after dropping it's ordnance & every ASW asset in range would have been vectored there, with a decent chance of sinking her (or him, as I think the Russian ships are refereed to).

But hey, it's just a movie, one that I really enjoyed. I think it was the writer or director of Braveheart that said "Never let history get in the way of telling a good story."

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Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Um, "Gates" is her middle name; first name Cheryl. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

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u crank Old enough to know better Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Prince Edward Island Posts: 11,747 Downloads: 136 Uploads: 0	I watched less than a minute and got bored or disinterested. So what. I guess you could do that with any movie. Some people must like it though. He has quite a list of Everything wrong with.... __________________ “Two possibilities exist: either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying.” ― Arthur C. Clarke

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ReallyDedPoet Canadian Wolf Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Canada. The one and only, East Coast Posts: 10,887 Downloads: 946 Uploads: 5	I view most movies as entertainment, so if it is not accurate then no big deal really. There are not to many movies that you could not pick apart at the end of the day. __________________ Back in the Day

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Aktungbby Gefallen Engel U-666 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: On a tilted, overheated, overpopulated spinning mudball on Collision course with Andromeda Galaxy Posts: 30,030 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	Let's hear it from the man himself Clancy wasn't crazy about the movie versions of his books. He complained that Ford was too old to play Jack Ryan, and he regretted the lack of creative control, saying: "Giving your book to Hollywood is like turning your daughter over to a pimp." Father knows best! __________________ "Only two things are infinite; The Universe and human squirrelyness?!!

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Wolferz Navy Seal Join Date: May 2007 Location: On a mighty quest for the Stick of Truth Posts: 5,963 Downloads: 52 Uploads: 0	Captain Obvious says... We don't need to hunt for RedOctober, He's in Missoura. __________________ Tomorrow never comes

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AngusJS Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 746 Downloads: 62 Uploads: 0	I always wondered why the Soviets didn't just deploy a towed sonar array, rather than engage in "Crazy Ivans".

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Admiral Lutjens Machinist's Mate Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Michigan Posts: 121 Downloads: 73 Uploads: 0	I loved the movie, but the book was amazing. Red Storm Rising is one of the all time best books, ever. __________________ Please follow my patrol log! https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/sho...=1#post2671928

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Terrax Warmonger Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: WV USA Posts: 101 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	The thing that always stuck out to me what the Tu-142 attack on the RO. As I recall, the bomber-converted-ASW aircraft carried around a dozen or so light weight torpedoes. In the movie they dropped a single light torp on the RO. The Typhoons were built to be very hard to sink & I think the single light torp would have had little to no chance of sinking her. When the TU-142 found the RO, they would have dropped everything they had. In reality, if the Russians were hunting a rouge sub, they would have flooded the Atlantic with 142's & Il-38 Mays searching for it. Had the 142 detected the RO, it would have stayed on station (fuel permitting) after dropping it's ordnance & every ASW asset in range would have been vectored there, with a decent chance of sinking her (or him, as I think the Russian ships are refereed to). But hey, it's just a movie, one that I really enjoyed. I think it was the writer or director of Braveheart that said "Never let history get in the way of telling a good story." __________________