Building a new rig.

01-20-14, 08:31 PM

So... I may have asked this a while back, but now that things are settling down and Im going to actually have money to spend soon. I've realized, if I am going to continue PC gaming, I want to get a Fast Desktop.

Now I have known that possibley the best way to do such is build one yourself, I've read some articles and magazines and so far it seems putting one together is just a matter of some common sense, and some careful hands, and Im ready for the challenge. My plan is to part it out and build it piece by piece over maybe 6 months or longer. My question is two-fold..

1) What could I expect to spend on something that would crush just about any game out on the market right now but still be reasonably decently priced. Like around $2,000 USD.

2) Are there any REALLY in depth articles that show you what to grab first if your parting out, and give you some basic ideas of what does what compared to other similar products. (Better graphics cards for overall performance vs better cards with better AA qualities and such)

I think I know enough about PC pieces to have a grasp on what I basically should get, I'll just need a bit more in depth tutoring from you all out there.

I know that I dont want to skimp on my PSU first and foremost, but other than that its been a while so any helps appreciated. Thanks guys.

Casey

Herr-Berbunch · 01-21-14, 03:06 AM

Due to the law of something better always around the corner I wouldn't recommend a build over six months, save the cash and in six months buy the inevitably better components.

Gargamel · 01-21-14, 06:47 PM

While you can learn to build one on your own, don't. Find a friend who has built one before to help you out. It'll make the process easier.

ReallyDedPoet · 01-21-14, 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gargamel

While you can learn to build one on your own, don't. Find a friend who has built one before to help you out. It'll make the process easier.

And if you make a mistake you may fudge the whole build.

stoppro · 01-22-14, 08:06 AM

It's not to hard,I built mine about 3years ago and it still runs great plays any game no problem. just be sure to research so every thing is compatable. If done right you won't have to do it again for a long time[unless you want to keep upgrading] Good luck!

Gerald · 01-22-14, 09:16 AM

^And do you have any questions regarding graphics card, so have Stoppro solution on them.

stoppro · 01-22-14, 09:25 AM

this is true, the 480 card tried to kill me. now all is good

Gerald · 01-22-14, 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stoppro

this is true, the 480 card tried to kill me. now all is good

I remember it, it was several years ago, there was trouble before it came into place,now all fine.

Herr-Berbunch · 01-22-14, 09:54 AM

Thought it was a 470 you got for your birthday, you replaced successfully with a 480 (and PSU).

stoppro · 01-22-14, 10:50 AM

That maybe right. It wouldn't work with XP. so I scrapped it and built the one I have now.It was the best thing and the 580 is much quieter . since then I have gotten my A+ cert and network+ cert. So now if it screws up.I am supposed to know how to fix it.but so far rock solid.

01-22-14, 07:27 PM

Graphics cards.. hmm whats the latest and greatest that isnt the most expensive thing on the market?

SERIOUS bang for the buck.

Arclight · 01-29-14, 11:52 PM

Imho the graphics card story is a bit tricky at the moment. AMD came up with their Mantle thingy, which could make AMD the preferred camp for any game that supports Mantle. Questions at this point are "is Mantle really that great?" and whether or not developers will support it in future games.

AMD is claiming a 45% improvement in Battlefield 4. Hard to really verify anything at this point, but promising enough to not dismiss hastily.

Apart from that, have a look at the 200,- to 250,- segment. Think you'd be pretty happy with a card like that.

01-30-14, 12:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arclight

Imho the graphics card story is a bit tricky at the moment. AMD came up with their Mantle thingy, which could make AMD the preferred camp for any game that supports Mantle. Questions at this point are "is Mantle really that great?" and whether or not developers will support it in future games.

AMD is claiming a 45% improvement in Battlefield 4. Hard to really verify anything at this point, but promising enough to not dismiss hastily.

Apart from that, have a look at the 200,- to 250,- segment. Think you'd be pretty happy with a card like that.

Are you talking nVidias??

Skybird · 01-30-14, 09:07 AM

2000 dollars? I spend 800 Euros three years ago, and the system still can handle all and everything I throw at it.

Just do not buy the latest, the newest, the most recent. That stuff, especially CPUs and graphics boards, is hopelessly overpriced.

Look out for for example a GPU card generation that is one generation behind the current market top leaders. You get maybe 5% more performance with that best of the best. And pay twice as much money. Never forget to consider the bang-for-the-buck ratio. Else you get eaten alive by those shops.

I would check a solid i5 or i7 (try to find an i5 that almost reaches the performance of the more expensive i7, at least three years ago some i5's where not inferior to i7's in gaming purposes, it depends, of course), a solid mainboard of good reputation, a good nVidia GTX 660. Windows 7 x64, 8 GB RAM or more.

And get a good PSU, quality here pays off. Many people underestimate the importance of good PSUs.

You will cry less when buying not the most expensive, because PC tech incredibly fast looses its monetarian value.

ReallyDedPoet · 01-30-14, 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skybird

2000 dollars? I spend 800 Euros three years ago, and the system still can handle all and everything I throw at it.

Just do not buy the latest, the newest, the most recent. That stuff, especially CPUs and graphics boards, is hopelessly overpriced.

Look out for for example a GPU card generation that is one generation behind the current market top leaders. You get maybe 5% more performance with that best of the best. And pay twice as much money. Never forget to consider the bang-for-the-buck ratio. Else you get eaten alive by those shops.

I would check a solid i5 or i7 (try to find an i5 that almost reaches the performance of the more expensive i7, at least three years ago some i5's where not inferior to i7's in gaming purposes, it depends, of course), a solid mainboard of good reputation, a good nVidia GTX 660. Windows 7 x64, 8 GB RAM or more.

And get a good PSU, quality here pays off. Many people underestimate the importance of good PSUs.

You will cry less when buying not the most expensive, because PC tech incredibly fast looses its monetarian value.

01-20-14, 08:31 PM	#1
reignofdeath Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Building a new rig. So... I may have asked this a while back, but now that things are settling down and Im going to actually have money to spend soon. I've realized, if I am going to continue PC gaming, I want to get a Fast Desktop. Now I have known that possibley the best way to do such is build one yourself, I've read some articles and magazines and so far it seems putting one together is just a matter of some common sense, and some careful hands, and Im ready for the challenge. My plan is to part it out and build it piece by piece over maybe 6 months or longer. My question is two-fold.. 1) What could I expect to spend on something that would crush just about any game out on the market right now but still be reasonably decently priced. Like around $2,000 USD. 2) Are there any REALLY in depth articles that show you what to grab first if your parting out, and give you some basic ideas of what does what compared to other similar products. (Better graphics cards for overall performance vs better cards with better AA qualities and such) I think I know enough about PC pieces to have a grasp on what I basically should get, I'll just need a bit more in depth tutoring from you all out there. I know that I dont want to skimp on my PSU first and foremost, but other than that its been a while so any helps appreciated. Thanks guys. Casey

01-21-14, 03:06 AM	#2
Herr-Berbunch Kaiser Bill's batman Join Date: May 2010 Location: AN72 Posts: 13,203 Downloads: 76 Uploads: 0	Due to the law of something better always around the corner I wouldn't recommend a build over six months, save the cash and in six months buy the inevitably better components. __________________

01-21-14, 06:47 PM	#3
Gargamel Lucky Sailor Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Rome Posts: 4,273 Downloads: 81 Uploads: 0	While you can learn to build one on your own, don't. Find a friend who has built one before to help you out. It'll make the process easier. __________________ Luck is a residue of Design.

01-22-14, 08:06 AM	#5
stoppro Sonar Guy Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: vero beach fl Posts: 380 Downloads: 495 Uploads: 0	It's not to hard,I built mine about 3years ago and it still runs great plays any game no problem. just be sure to research so every thing is compatable. If done right you won't have to do it again for a long time[unless you want to keep upgrading] Good luck! __________________ win 10 64-msi-32gig cosair ddr4-ryzen9-5600evga gtx3060-corsair850watt-2-ssd 500 gig drives 1m2 1tig

01-22-14, 09:16 AM	#6
Gerald SUBSIM Newsman Join Date: May 2008 Location: Close to sea Posts: 24,254 Downloads: 553 Uploads: 0	^And do you have any questions regarding graphics card, so have Stoppro solution on them. __________________ Nothing in life is to be feard,it is only to be understood. Marie Curie

01-22-14, 09:25 AM	#7
stoppro Sonar Guy Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: vero beach fl Posts: 380 Downloads: 495 Uploads: 0	this is true, the 480 card tried to kill me. now all is good __________________ win 10 64-msi-32gig cosair ddr4-ryzen9-5600evga gtx3060-corsair850watt-2-ssd 500 gig drives 1m2 1tig

01-22-14, 09:54 AM	#9
Herr-Berbunch Kaiser Bill's batman Join Date: May 2010 Location: AN72 Posts: 13,203 Downloads: 76 Uploads: 0	Thought it was a 470 you got for your birthday, you replaced successfully with a 480 (and PSU). __________________

01-22-14, 10:50 AM	#10
stoppro Sonar Guy Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: vero beach fl Posts: 380 Downloads: 495 Uploads: 0	That maybe right. It wouldn't work with XP. so I scrapped it and built the one I have now.It was the best thing and the 580 is much quieter . since then I have gotten my A+ cert and network+ cert. So now if it screws up.I am supposed to know how to fix it.but so far rock solid. __________________ win 10 64-msi-32gig cosair ddr4-ryzen9-5600evga gtx3060-corsair850watt-2-ssd 500 gig drives 1m2 1tig

01-22-14, 07:27 PM	#11
reignofdeath Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Graphics cards.. hmm whats the latest and greatest that isnt the most expensive thing on the market? SERIOUS bang for the buck.

01-29-14, 11:52 PM	#12
Arclight Navy Seal Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Land of windmills, tulips, wooden shoes and cheese. Lots of cheese. Posts: 8,467 Downloads: 53 Uploads: 10	Imho the graphics card story is a bit tricky at the moment. AMD came up with their Mantle thingy, which could make AMD the preferred camp for any game that supports Mantle. Questions at this point are "is Mantle really that great?" and whether or not developers will support it in future games. AMD is claiming a 45% improvement in Battlefield 4. Hard to really verify anything at this point, but promising enough to not dismiss hastily. Apart from that, have a look at the 200,- to 250,- segment. Think you'd be pretty happy with a card like that. __________________ Contritium praecedit superbia.

01-30-14, 09:07 AM	#14
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,605 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	2000 dollars? I spend 800 Euros three years ago, and the system still can handle all and everything I throw at it. Just do not buy the latest, the newest, the most recent. That stuff, especially CPUs and graphics boards, is hopelessly overpriced. Look out for for example a GPU card generation that is one generation behind the current market top leaders. You get maybe 5% more performance with that best of the best. And pay twice as much money. Never forget to consider the bang-for-the-buck ratio. Else you get eaten alive by those shops. I would check a solid i5 or i7 (try to find an i5 that almost reaches the performance of the more expensive i7, at least three years ago some i5's where not inferior to i7's in gaming purposes, it depends, of course), a solid mainboard of good reputation, a good nVidia GTX 660. Windows 7 x64, 8 GB RAM or more. And get a good PSU, quality here pays off. Many people underestimate the importance of good PSUs. You will cry less when buying not the most expensive, because PC tech incredibly fast looses its monetarian value. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.