How will historian see USA today in 200 years from now?

Tchocky · 01-12-14, 09:23 PM

Yeah I saw a few pigs chatting to each other the other day. Didn't think much of it but I suppose Orwell was right on the money there.

August · 01-12-14, 09:48 PM

Orwell was wrong. No pig will ever be in charge of anything as long as bacon remains so tasty.

Buddahaid · 01-12-14, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by August

Orwell was wrong. No pig will ever be in charge of anything as long as bacon remains so tasty.

LOL

Mr Quatro · 01-17-14, 07:48 PM

Two hundred (200) years from now?

There will still be 800 years left, give or take a few years, of peace subtracted from the promised 1,000 years of peace in the Book of Revelations.

I suspect any historian of the USA would say, "Blame it on the Jews"

Just kidding ... well lets look back at what the USA and the world for that matter had for tools.

The year is 1814, right?

War between the states had not occurred yet
Slaves were in vogue
Horses and wagons were still being used to go west
Trains were the main transportation of goods and people
Sailing ships had to go around the Horn
No automobiles or trucks were available yet
People were farmers

http://www.historyorb.com/events/date/1814

March 27th
Battle at Horseshoe Bend: General Andrew Jackson defeats the Red Sticks, part of the Creek Indian tribe near Dadeville, Alabama

May 5th
British attack Ft Ontario, Oswego, NY

May 11th
Americans defeat British at Battle of Plattsburgh

July 3rd
Americans capture Fort Erie Canada

July 5th
Americans defeat British & Canadians at Chippewa, Ontario

July 18th
British capture Prairie du Chien (Wisc)

July25th
Battle of Niagara Falls (Lundy's Lane); Americans defeat British

July 25th
George Stephenson introduced the 1st steam locomotive (according to this USA didn't have trains yet)

September 11th
Battle of Lake Champlain, NY; American Navy defeats British

September 12th
Battle of North Point fought near Baltimore during War of 1812

September 14th
Francis Scott Key inspired to write "Star-Spangled Banner"

December 24th
Treaty of Ghent (end of US-Britain War of 1812) signed

December 27th
Destruction of schooner Carolina, the last of Commodore Daniel Patterson's make-shift fleet that fought a series of delaying actions that contributed to Andrew Jackson's victory at the Battle of New Orleans.

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I think two hundred (200) years from now the USA will have learned how to vote by then and we will have a better society of politicians that are really for the people.

ACA will have saved many lives and people born in 2114 will still be alive in 2214 on life support of course lol

The food chain will have to improve or selective breeding will have already occurred.

The president will be Hispanic and the vice president will be oriental with 100 billion/trillion owed on the national debt to China or we could have a war over what we owe with the results of no more nuclear weapons being allowed in any country of the world with the new ISS safe guarding the USA from any quick launch by zapping the offending party with the new death ray that is only allowed to be in outer space.

Mars will have been colonized with children that have never even seen earth yet and may never see earth.

Bottom line: I like to think positive and that the good ole USA will be a better place ... remember it's up to your children's, children, children, to vote properly in a free society in order for their children to benefit from a better world.

Oberon · 01-17-14, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Quatro

July 25th
George Stephenson introduced the 1st steam locomotive (according to this USA didn't have trains yet)

Trevithick overlooked again.

Stephenson may have built his first steam locomotive in 1814, but it wasn't the first, Trevithick beat him by a decade.

First US railroad opened in 1830 between Baltimore and a point on the Ohio river, at around the same time in the UK the first inter-city railway was opened between Liverpool and Manchester.

Sailor Steve · 01-17-14, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Oberon

Trevithick overlooked again.

Stephenson may have built his first steam locomotive in 1814, but it wasn't the first, Trevithick beat him by a decade.

Nor the second nor the third. Stephenson's real fame came from building the first inter-city railway line, the Liverpool & Manchester, which opened in 1830.

Jimbuna · 01-18-14, 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Nor the second nor the third. Stephenson's real fame came from building the first inter-city railway line, the Liverpool & Manchester, which opened in 1830.

He already stated that over 1 1/2 hours ago

Jimbuna · 01-13-14, 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by August

Orwell was wrong. No pig will ever be in charge of anything as long as bacon remains so tasty.

LOL

Aktungbby · 01-13-14, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Tchocky

Yeah I saw a few pigs chatting to each other the other day. Didn't think much of it but I suppose Orwell was right on the money there.

Quote:

Originally Posted by August

Orwell was wrong. No pig will ever be in charge of anything as long as bacon remains so tasty.

ANIMAL FARM: A Fairy Story- George "Donkey" Orwell 1945.... "All animals are equal but some animals(pigs) are more equal than others"- Napoleon( A Berkshire Pig) ..."life will go on as it always has gone on---badly" Benjamin, a wise donkey

As with the seven animal commandments of the anti-communist novel: political dogma, reduced to malleable propaganda...

Armistead · 01-13-14, 03:45 PM

I wonder what Subsim will look like in 200 years from now...

Wolferz · 01-13-14, 04:45 PM

Historians will call it the beginning of the end.

mapuc · 01-13-14, 05:31 PM

It was a tough one i admit that.

No one will know.

In the danish version, people wrote, from their political standpoint, what they thought a historian would write about Denmark 200 years from now.

Markus

Oberon · 01-13-14, 11:26 PM

Depends which way we slide really. If we're able to fix some of the problems we face, then we'll probably look on this era in a manner in which we look upon the Victorians. People will laugh at the fears of homosexuality, be confused at how big an issue it was, ponder just how people got on without a certain gadget that makes life really easy that exists in the future but doesn't now, and shake their heads at the consumption of non-renewable resources.

On the other hand, and sadly the more likely option, is that people will look at this as the last time of plenty, when fuel was still cheap enough for most people to buy, when there was a choice in food supplies, when the poor could still walk through the streets of the rich if they so wanted, when people had enough free time that they were able to ponder these questions instead of having to work constantly to provide food for their family. They may wish desperately for the current political system, having overthrown it and unwittingly sleepwalked into a military dictatorship.
They may compare it, those who have the knowledge to, to the last hurrahs of Rome before its decline and destruction.

Either way they will likely wonder why we cared so little for them.

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Tchocky Navy Seal Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 5,874 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	Yeah I saw a few pigs chatting to each other the other day. Didn't think much of it but I suppose Orwell was right on the money there. __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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August Wayfaring Stranger Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 23,197 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Orwell was wrong. No pig will ever be in charge of anything as long as bacon remains so tasty. __________________ Flanked by life and the funeral pyre. Putting on a show for you to see.

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Armistead Rear Admiral Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: on the Dan Posts: 10,880 Downloads: 364 Uploads: 0	I wonder what Subsim will look like in 200 years from now... __________________ You see my dog don't like people laughing. He gets the crazy idea you're laughing at him. Now if you apologize like I know you're going to, I might convince him that you really didn't mean it.

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Wolferz Navy Seal Join Date: May 2007 Location: On a mighty quest for the Stick of Truth Posts: 5,963 Downloads: 52 Uploads: 0	Historians will call it the beginning of the end. __________________ Tomorrow never comes

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Mr Quatro Navy Seal Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 6,772 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Two hundred (200) years from now? There will still be 800 years left, give or take a few years, of peace subtracted from the promised 1,000 years of peace in the Book of Revelations. I suspect any historian of the USA would say, "Blame it on the Jews" Just kidding ... well lets look back at what the USA and the world for that matter had for tools. The year is 1814, right? War between the states had not occurred yet Slaves were in vogue Horses and wagons were still being used to go west Trains were the main transportation of goods and people Sailing ships had to go around the Horn No automobiles or trucks were available yet People were farmers http://www.historyorb.com/events/date/1814 March 27th Battle at Horseshoe Bend: General Andrew Jackson defeats the Red Sticks, part of the Creek Indian tribe near Dadeville, Alabama May 5th British attack Ft Ontario, Oswego, NY May 11th Americans defeat British at Battle of Plattsburgh July 3rd Americans capture Fort Erie Canada July 5th Americans defeat British & Canadians at Chippewa, Ontario July 18th British capture Prairie du Chien (Wisc) July25th Battle of Niagara Falls (Lundy's Lane); Americans defeat British July 25th George Stephenson introduced the 1st steam locomotive (according to this USA didn't have trains yet) September 11th Battle of Lake Champlain, NY; American Navy defeats British September 12th Battle of North Point fought near Baltimore during War of 1812 September 14th Francis Scott Key inspired to write "Star-Spangled Banner" December 24th Treaty of Ghent (end of US-Britain War of 1812) signed December 27th Destruction of schooner Carolina, the last of Commodore Daniel Patterson's make-shift fleet that fought a series of delaying actions that contributed to Andrew Jackson's victory at the Battle of New Orleans. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think two hundred (200) years from now the USA will have learned how to vote by then and we will have a better society of politicians that are really for the people. ACA will have saved many lives and people born in 2114 will still be alive in 2214 on life support of course lol The food chain will have to improve or selective breeding will have already occurred. The president will be Hispanic and the vice president will be oriental with 100 billion/trillion owed on the national debt to China or we could have a war over what we owe with the results of no more nuclear weapons being allowed in any country of the world with the new ISS safe guarding the USA from any quick launch by zapping the offending party with the new death ray that is only allowed to be in outer space. Mars will have been colonized with children that have never even seen earth yet and may never see earth. Bottom line: I like to think positive and that the good ole USA will be a better place ... remember it's up to your children's, children, children, to vote properly in a free society in order for their children to benefit from a better world.

01-13-14, 05:31 PM	#12
mapuc CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 20,537 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	It was a tough one i admit that. No one will know. In the danish version, people wrote, from their political standpoint, what they thought a historian would write about Denmark 200 years from now. Markus

01-13-14, 11:26 PM	#13
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	Depends which way we slide really. If we're able to fix some of the problems we face, then we'll probably look on this era in a manner in which we look upon the Victorians. People will laugh at the fears of homosexuality, be confused at how big an issue it was, ponder just how people got on without a certain gadget that makes life really easy that exists in the future but doesn't now, and shake their heads at the consumption of non-renewable resources. On the other hand, and sadly the more likely option, is that people will look at this as the last time of plenty, when fuel was still cheap enough for most people to buy, when there was a choice in food supplies, when the poor could still walk through the streets of the rich if they so wanted, when people had enough free time that they were able to ponder these questions instead of having to work constantly to provide food for their family. They may wish desperately for the current political system, having overthrown it and unwittingly sleepwalked into a military dictatorship. They may compare it, those who have the knowledge to, to the last hurrahs of Rome before its decline and destruction. Either way they will likely wonder why we cared so little for them.