Steve's Models

Buddahaid · 01-11-14, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Aktungbby

Sorry: http:[URL=XXX site below it. The Hiero engine Lloyd CII site has a large unclear photo [B]and[/B] a small thumbnail photo which can be enlarged and is quite clear; showing the left upper underside of the normal ribbed wing. The CII site mentions the plywood fuselage but says nothing about wings. If the CII wings were plywood also the site should mention that as well, as it does for the CV. Apparently the CV plywood wing had a tendancy to peel in the slipstream if damaged as well as the moisture problem. Also viewed Knights of the Air:Made in Austria and Special Hobby1/48 Model Madness of a Lloyd CV. The CIII and CIV renditions show the wing poorly, as you say, but in that 'yellow' dope color you discussed in a previous post, again indicating a fabric rather than plywood wing.

That Wiki link redirects to some advert site that wants you to update your media player. I'd kill it now.

Jimbuna · 01-12-14, 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Buddahaid

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The current redirection is:

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Sailor Steve · 01-13-14, 04:18 PM

The propeller logo decals came to day, and they are stunning! Well worth the $13.50 I paid for each of them. Unfortunately I bought the first of four sheets of German decals, and the ones I really wanted are on sheet four, as most of the Eindekker photos show Integral Propeller logos, with one from Germania. Oh well, I'll make do.

German Propeller Logos #1 consists of four different versions of the markings for Franz Reschke GmbH.

It's the Austro-Hungarian sheet that has me excited.

Sailor Steve · 01-13-14, 09:22 PM

I got the propeller decals on the Eindekker and it's done.

Fokker M5K/MG

The wings have been relocated to represent the early "shoulder" position.

Early serial number. This indicates the fourth one converted. The first one went to Lt. Otto Parschau, numbers two and three going to his students Max Immelmann and Oswald Boelke. Number four was apparently retained at the factory for testing and development, which is why I chose it. Number five was flown by Lt. Kurt Wintgens, who scored the first Fokker victory on July 1, 1915. This was not credited, but his third victory on July 15 was the first to be so. It seems that all E.Is up through #16 were labelled "E" with the number following, after which they became "Fok. E.I xxx/15".

Close-up showing the early mounting of the Parabellum gun. This proved to have an unstable rate of fire, which made it hard to synchronize. Later all forward-firing guns were converted to the Spandau 08, the Parabellum guns being reserved for use by observers.

Front view showing the Oberusel U.0 seven-cylinder 80-horsepower engine and the propeller logos.

Close-up showing the Werke (factory) number (194) and the oil stains on the fabric. All engines of the period, and especially the rotaries, tended to throw oil at an alarming rate. This led to certain problems for the pilots, which was relieved by keeping stocks of elderberry wine on hand. The oil also soaked into the fabric and was impossible to remove, so fabric coverings became increasingly splotched in appearance, especially the undersides.

While doing research I came upon a discussion from 2007 continuing the argument over Fokker E-type designations, particularly E.I and E.II. The contributor there claimed access to the original documents and said that he couldn't understand why the leading expert would make such a mistake, but insisted that Peter Grosz was wrong. My only conclusion is the one I seem to come to a lot: I don't know.

Jimbuna · 01-14-14, 07:03 AM

Decals look even better than your description

Buddahaid · 01-14-14, 08:20 PM

I love that one Steve. Breathing castor oil fumes and such was an often unrelated part of the romantic notion of being a pilot.

Sailor Steve · 01-19-14, 09:26 PM

Six days after photographing the Eindekker and nine days after doing any real work, I finally got started again on the Lloyd.

Fuselage is together and lower wings mounted.

01-13-14, 04:18 PM	#3
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	The propeller logo decals came to day, and they are stunning! Well worth the $13.50 I paid for each of them. Unfortunately I bought the first of four sheets of German decals, and the ones I really wanted are on sheet four, as most of the Eindekker photos show Integral Propeller logos, with one from Germania. Oh well, I'll make do. German Propeller Logos #1 consists of four different versions of the markings for Franz Reschke GmbH. It's the Austro-Hungarian sheet that has me excited. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

01-13-14, 09:22 PM	#4
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	I got the propeller decals on the Eindekker and it's done. Fokker M5K/MG The wings have been relocated to represent the early "shoulder" position. Early serial number. This indicates the fourth one converted. The first one went to Lt. Otto Parschau, numbers two and three going to his students Max Immelmann and Oswald Boelke. Number four was apparently retained at the factory for testing and development, which is why I chose it. Number five was flown by Lt. Kurt Wintgens, who scored the first Fokker victory on July 1, 1915. This was not credited, but his third victory on July 15 was the first to be so. It seems that all E.Is up through #16 were labelled "E" with the number following, after which they became "Fok. E.I xxx/15". Close-up showing the early mounting of the Parabellum gun. This proved to have an unstable rate of fire, which made it hard to synchronize. Later all forward-firing guns were converted to the Spandau 08, the Parabellum guns being reserved for use by observers. Front view showing the Oberusel U.0 seven-cylinder 80-horsepower engine and the propeller logos. Close-up showing the Werke (factory) number (194) and the oil stains on the fabric. All engines of the period, and especially the rotaries, tended to throw oil at an alarming rate. This led to certain problems for the pilots, which was relieved by keeping stocks of elderberry wine on hand. The oil also soaked into the fabric and was impossible to remove, so fabric coverings became increasingly splotched in appearance, especially the undersides. While doing research I came upon a discussion from 2007 continuing the argument over Fokker E-type designations, particularly E.I and E.II. The contributor there claimed access to the original documents and said that he couldn't understand why the leading expert would make such a mistake, but insisted that Peter Grosz was wrong. My only conclusion is the one I seem to come to a lot: I don't know. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo Last edited by Sailor Steve; 01-13-14 at 11:43 PM.

01-14-14, 07:03 AM	#5
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,552 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Decals look even better than your description __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

01-14-14, 08:20 PM	#6
Buddahaid Shark above Space Chicken Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 9,324 Downloads: 162 Uploads: 0	I love that one Steve. Breathing castor oil fumes and such was an often unrelated part of the romantic notion of being a pilot. __________________ "However vast the darkness, we must provide our own light." Stanley Kubrick "Tomorrow belongs to those who can hear it coming." David Bowie

01-19-14, 09:26 PM	#7
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Six days after photographing the Eindekker and nine days after doing any real work, I finally got started again on the Lloyd. Fuselage is together and lower wings mounted. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo