Senator Rand Paul files Lawsuit against Obama and the NSA

Admiral Halsey · 01-04-14, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Oberon

Less then I thought we had.

Oberon · 01-04-14, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Admiral Halsey

Less then I thought we had.

That's only over a period of two months....

Admiral Halsey · 01-04-14, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Oberon

That's only over a period of two months....

Oh...

Oberon · 01-04-14, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Admiral Halsey

Oh...

Yah...

Admiral Halsey · 01-04-14, 08:55 PM

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Yah...

Well it is an important topic...

Oberon · 01-04-14, 09:19 PM

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Well it is an important topic...

I agree, and so is gun control, which is why we had an all purpose 'gun control thread', but as soon as that fell off the front page most people forgot about it. Really, we could do with having several all-purpose threads, we had one for admiring guns, and yet we still get 'look at x gun doing y' stories appear, like so:

Guns:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=210303
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=210021
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=210020
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=209461

So, in theory what should happen is that any new threads on the subject get merged into the all purpose thread, but unfortunately that's pretty labour intensive, it got pretty bad a while ago when Neal had to step in a merge all the 2nd Amendment Gun control threads (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show....php?p=2043294).

The primary problem that we face here in this forum is that there are a handful of people on one side of the debate and a handful of people on the other, neither side are going to move from their entrenched positions and so when a topic like this comes up, all that happens is a vicious back and forth that ends with either someone getting a warning or both sides entrenching even deeper into their respective beliefs.

By definition a forum is - "a meeting or medium where ideas and views on a particular issue can be exchanged".
We have gone past the point that ideas and views have been exchanged, there is nothing new to discuss, we know Skybirds position on the NSA, we know how August feels about the 2nd Amendment, because these positions have been made abundantly clear in previous threads on these topics, and neither side have any form of arguement that is going to change the opinion of the other. So what do we end up with? The sort of thing we saw in this thread: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=210304 where there's just a circle of viciousness until the moderators are forced to step in.

To be fair, I must stress it doesn't always go this way, thankfully there are a lot of rational minds on this forum, but sometimes people just let their emotions get the better of them, particularly on an emotive subject...which seems to be the only sort of subject that certain people post news stories about...

Wolferz · 01-05-14, 01:01 PM

The honorable Mister Paul should also include the architects of the Patriot Act as co-defendants in his suit, though prying Mister Bush off his ranch may prove to be problematic and Mister Cheney has already proven that he's above the law, the constitution and the stratosphere.

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Wolferz Navy Seal Join Date: May 2007 Location: On a mighty quest for the Stick of Truth Posts: 5,963 Downloads: 52 Uploads: 0	The honorable Mister Paul should also include the architects of the Patriot Act as co-defendants in his suit, though prying Mister Bush off his ranch may prove to be problematic and Mister Cheney has already proven that he's above the law, the constitution and the stratosphere. __________________ Tomorrow never comes