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Old 01-02-14, 05:53 PM   #1
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Old 01-03-14, 03:05 AM   #2
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Wilkommen an Bord, Krumski!
When speaking of hydrophone, you'll have to keep in mind that your hydrophone operator should have a hearing aid since he - even if experienced - can only detect a target to at most 15-20 km, whereas you yourself hear a ship at a range of 30 km in favourable conditions. For that very reason don't forget what the manual says:
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This possibility of using the hydrophone to help in detecting surf ships should, however, be restricted to those cases in which the submarine is unavoidably compelled to stay below the surface. The hydrophone must not lead to inactivity [passivity] underwater, which would be wrong; it is an auxiliary instrument and no more, and can never be a substitute for ocular perception and surface viewing. As soon as visibility allows, the place of the submarine is on the surface. Otherwise valuable opportunities of attack are lost.
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Old 01-03-14, 06:18 AM   #3
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Wilkommen an Bord, Krumski!
When speaking of hydrophone, you'll have to keep in mind that your hydrophone operator should have a hearing aid since he - even if experienced - can only detect a target to at most 15-20 km, whereas you yourself hear a ship at a range of 30 km in favourable conditions. For that very reason don't forget what the manual says:
THE SUBMARINE COMMANDER'S HANDBOOK
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Old 01-03-14, 06:46 AM   #4
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Wilkommen an Bord, Krumski!
When speaking of hydrophone, you'll have to keep in mind that your hydrophone operator should have a hearing aid since he - even if experienced - can only detect a target to at most 15-20 km, whereas you yourself hear a ship at a range of 30 km in favourable conditions. For that very reason don't forget what the manual says:
THE SUBMARINE COMMANDER'S HANDBOOK
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Precisely! This is what I thought the hydrophones were supposed to be used for. So in reality, the "4 bearing hydrophone" method to obtain a targets course and speed all while staying underwater would only get you enough information to set up for a scope attack. I never liked firing at blind bearings because you never know what you're about to torpedo...

It's not very fun when you get 3 torp impacts at night, from extreme distances, and without ever raising a scope, and the crew doesn't cheer. All goes dead silent in the sub. GULP!

You know you're in for some negative renown back at base!
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Old 01-03-14, 08:42 AM   #5
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Thank you for the warm welcome and the answers! I'll rely on the hydrophone much less from now on. I also used the realistic crew option of SH3 Commander and no one on board has radio specialization.
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Old 01-03-14, 10:23 AM   #6
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I also used the realistic crew option of SH3 Commander and no one on board has radio specialization.
You can give that one out after the first patrol in the SH3 Commander crew management screen.
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Old 01-03-14, 07:05 PM   #7
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I will, thanks HW3
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Old 01-06-14, 10:29 AM   #8
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Well, nobody ever said you HAVE to do blind shootings based upon your hydrophone and the 4 bearing method. Just that it is possible, and a good way to show it can be quite accurate if executed propperly. (but it likely shouldn't be considered a realistic tactic performed in real life)

And you better make sure it's not the Bismark in front of you.

@Krumski: Welcome to this odd ball crew.
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