National ID Law Takes Effect In 2014

[Stealhead]

OK now how do you prove that you are a US citizen? Should a birth certificate not be enough?Seems not.


Seems that Florida already complies boy oh boy trust me on this one getting or renewing your license is going to become a real pain in the butt.

Of course it says that the card must have a physical address and my license does not it is my P.O. Box.Of course they already require all the things to prove who you are.I a sure that some cop will try and arrest me or they will bar me from boarding a plane my licnese is good until 2016.

Several of 9/11 hijackers got IDs in Florida which is why they got this idea in the first place as if a determined person just cant make a fake ID. the 9/11 attackers did not need to but that does not mean that other future folks will not just make fake IDs.Or just be home grown terrorists.

Florida has some insanely strict laws to prove residence.One law only accepts a few things tow of them being a license that has not been renewed in 2 years and a vehicle registration for a car that has been owned in the state for two years or more.Another one is owned land or a rental property that you have been in for two years or more.Well the obvious no brainier is that someone can have purchased a new vehicle,moved and renewed their license all in the past two years and have lived in Florida for decades but on no not a resident.

This happened to me a few years ago the dingbat tried to say that because I was in the military for the past 12 years I as not a resident I told her that while in the military you are a resident of the state you lived in before you enlisted.Still I had a new car and recently renewed license so not a resident. Finally the lady tells me that I can get a note notarized from my elections supervisor that I was registered to vote in Florida for 2 years or more.So I did that when asked the lady at the elections office she laughed people had been coming in very often for this same reason.

@RedOctober Victory over what? You are already in the system as it is.Pretty soon you'll have to register for the draft and be in the system even deeper hope you where not planning on going to college.On the bright side several states including your state have passed bills that challenge Real ID.

[Red October1984]

Originally Posted by Stealhead

@RedOctober Victory over what? You are already in the system as it is.Pretty soon you'll have to register for the draft and be in the system even deeper hope you where not planning on going to college.On the bright side several states including your state have passed bills that challenge Real ID.

That's why it's only a victory for a little bit longer.

[Wolferz]

Is that boot on your neck comfortable?
Incremental theft of freedom is barely noticeable until it's all gone.

Are you ready for your RFID?

[Jimbuna]

This has been discussed in the UK and so far the resistance of the masses has worked.

[Tango589]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

This has been discussed in the UK and so far the resistance of the masses has worked.

Damn straight! God only knows what sort of fiasco would be unleashed if the govt. brought this into effect?

[Ducimus]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

This has been discussed in the UK and so far the resistance of the masses has worked.

Hopefully this goes mainstream here. Once something does, it awakes enough people to keep our bought politicians at bay. Personally, this is the first I've heard of a national ID card for a very long time. I think I may have heard of it once a few years ago, but I'm not sure. I see this as more centralization of a authority of the federal government and making states, and states rights more subservient. Our federal government already has too much power as it is, it doesn't need any more.

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Ducimus

Hopefully this goes mainstream here. Once something does, it awakes enough people to keep our bought politicians at bay. Personally, this is the first I've heard of a national ID card for a very long time. I think I may have heard of it once a few years ago, but I'm not sure. I see this as more centralization of a authority of the federal government and making states, and states rights more subservient. Our federal government already has too much power as it is, it doesn't need any more.

Couldn't agree more and the burning question in my mind is...what do you intend to use them for?

[Ducimus]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

Couldn't agree more and the burning question in my mind is...what do you intend to use them for?

I could give a 3 word sentence that comprises of just two words, but then i'd probably godwin the thread. In the larger view, I think it's part of that blank check that was placed into the hands of our politicians post 911. National ID? They'll say it's to fight terrorism. In fact, no matter what the over reach is, they'll always say it's to fight terrorism; and too many of us will happily go along with it as long as we have facebook, stupid reality TV shows, and iPad like devices.