Historical Question Regarding U-Boats

gi_dan2987 · 12-28-13, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by areo16

Can anyone else confirm this? Did your cousin's husband's dad care to say how he knew it was a Monsun boat?

He said him and the remaining survivors on the lifeboats saw it surface shortly after they had abandoned ship. When the U-boat turned to move away after confirming its kill, they saw a peculiar German marking on the side. When they asked about this later they found out it was a Monsun boat.

Many people think the Germans only stuck to the Indian Ocean. Truth is they did make brief forays into the PTO.

areo16 · 12-28-13, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by gi_dan2987

He said him and the remaining survivors on the lifeboats saw it surface shortly after they had abandoned ship. When the U-boat turned to move away after confirming its kill, they saw a peculiar German marking on the side. When they asked about this later they found out it was a Monsun boat.

Many people think the Germans only stuck to the Indian Ocean. Truth is they did make brief forays into the PTO.

I just looked at uboat.net and there is only about maybe 6 possible boats there were even of the Monsun Gruppe during that time. None have recordings of killings in the area or near the date.

My issue is this. The guy was on a troopship, which is very large. If a boat had such a kill it would certainly be recorded. These are often escorted and are in convoys. Mind you, Leyte Gulf is the LARGEST NAVAL BATTLE IN THE HISTORY OF MANKIND (tonnage). So, for just a few survivors to see the uboat, and no other vessels to, is a bit of a phenomenon. And during this very great battle, the uboat captain decided to risk his boat by surfacing.

If my troopship was sunk, I'd certainly want to believe it was done by a uboat in the middle of the Pacific. What a story!

Plus, you get alot of these young GI's together, and stories change and people are influenced over time. They've forgotten, mistaken, coercion, etc..

Do you see where I'm coming from?

gi_dan2987 · 12-28-13, 07:18 PM

Well excuse me while I clean the saliva off my uniform....

He was an old man. Consider the source.

areo16 · 12-28-13, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by gi_dan2987

He was an old man. Consider the source.

I have, that's why I've posted four paragraphs in response.

You posted the story, pal.

gi_dan2987 · 12-28-13, 08:53 PM

You're correct, I did. You've made your point, thank you. The world is now a better place.

areo16 · 12-29-13, 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by gi_dan2987

The world is now a better place.

Don't be sour.

Thanks for sharing your story!

gi_dan2987 · 12-29-13, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by areo16

Don't be sour.

Thanks for sharing your story!

I see what you're trying to do. I'm not being sour, I'm just politely expressing my lack of will to continue this conversation, as you seem to be one of those individuals who has to come out on top with everything, even on a forum. To you, simply "winning" is your end game. In a discussion like this, that means having the last word, as you have done. Congratulations, I'm sure you have a sense of inflated accomplishment now.

He was an old man, probably deranged and clouded by years on his mind. I was simply sharing something that I heard from a vet, and being the person you are, had to dive in guns blazing and shoot my thread to pieces over it. Nobody asked you to, but because you were so inclined to grace us with your presence, I felt the need to write this one final message to you in closure. Have fun interjecting on other threads! Just a fair warning though, Neal's moderators watch out for people such as yourself. You'll find yourself keelhauled before long.

I just love it when non-donating stowaways feel they have the right to bust in on a thread and tear it up as they see fit. No respect anymore these days. For being somebody that just signed up in October, you sure have a lot to say!

Eastwa · 01-11-14, 06:33 AM

As far as I am aware only one uboat made a patrol in the pacific and that was u862 between late 1944 and early 1945 and that was around the southern part of Australia and also around New Zealand. Most monsoon boats operated in the Indian Ocean. There is a good book about u862s voyage called uboat far from home

Gerald · 01-11-14, 06:40 AM

^Like this one? http://www.amazon.co.uk/U-Boat-Far-F.../dp/1864482672

Eastwa · 01-11-14, 07:16 AM

That's the one it's a good read

Jimbuna · 01-11-14, 08:33 AM

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That's the one it's a good read

Most definitely

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gi_dan2987 Weps Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 359 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 0	You're correct, I did. You've made your point, thank you. The world is now a better place.

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Eastwa Torpedoman Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 112 Downloads: 124 Uploads: 0	As far as I am aware only one uboat made a patrol in the pacific and that was u862 between late 1944 and early 1945 and that was around the southern part of Australia and also around New Zealand. Most monsoon boats operated in the Indian Ocean. There is a good book about u862s voyage called uboat far from home

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Eastwa Torpedoman Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 112 Downloads: 124 Uploads: 0	That's the one it's a good read