Kind of ironic this happened... - Page 9

12-09-13, 04:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Okay, tone back the rhetoric, please.

OK hows this?

Allowing parents the right to send their kids (regardless of race) to successful schools would close the education gap.

I was under the impression that segregated education was made illegal many years ago.
Are you suggesting that this method of persecution based on skin colour is still practiced?

I could perhaps follow it up with something about some black folks who were generously allowed to attend a church as part of its congregation(which is nice

), until they got too uppity and thought that they would be allowed to have their marriage conducted in the "white" church they attended by the pastor who preached to them every Sabbath.

CaptainHaplo · 12-09-13, 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by TarJak

QED

Really - your going to quote idiocy as your proof? An "answer" that ignores things like racial quota's in schools and affirmative action in the workplace.

Reverse racism (and sexism) is being instituted in elementary schools today. Just look at Harvey Scott K-8, where a lunchtime drum circle is held - but only for "Black or Brown" kids. White and American Indian boys not allowed. Girls not allowed at all. The same kind of thing happens all day long when you look at the quota system we have in colleges, or the affirmative action requirements in the workplace. When programs intentionally lift up mediocrity (again - regardless of race) over those more qualified - its not equality.

The "equal rights movement" wasn't about reverse racism - but that is the outcome today.

AVGWarhawk · 12-09-13, 09:29 AM

Tribesman:

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Allowing parents the right to send their kids (regardless of race) to successful schools would close the education gap.

They are allowed. However, economic/financial gap often eliminate any idea of attending affluent schools. I certainly can not afford Harvard for my kids. Also, the area some folks live attribute to the quality or lack there of in the school. The school system I live some students are bused to other schools within in the district. Some idea of making it all equal. Not sure if it works.

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I was under the impression that segregated education was made illegal many years ago.
Are you suggesting that this method of persecution based on skin colour is still practiced?

Segregation was eliminated years ago. However, through the use of pricing certain folks out of the housing market in particular areas leads to predominantly white schools for that neighborhood. Although it is not "practiced" as some claim it is alive and well.

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I could perhaps follow it up with something about some black folks who were generously allowed to attend a church as part of its congregation(which is nice), until they got too uppity and thought that they would be allowed to have their marriage conducted in the "white" church they attended by the pastor who preached to them every Sabbath.

This has never happened in any churches I have attended. Nor would I attend such a church. I can not account for all churches as this issue has been in the news recently. I believe in Mississippi area if I'm not mistaken.

Sailor Steve · 12-09-13, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribesman

OK hows this?

I find nothing wrong with your sentiments on this. Your wording seemed a bit inflammatory, is all.

Ducimus · 12-09-13, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by mookiemookie

Bull. The past contains decades of discrimination of minorities. If your family has been discriminated against in hiring, salary, and housing for decades, you are not going to have as much wealth and sometimes education as those who did not have to deal with such discrimination.

This puts it as succinctly as anything I'd care to type

http://i.imgur.com/u1yQ8kz.png

While history should be acknowledged and learned from, the present and the future should not be subservient to it. If one is going to judge today's generations by the actions of their grandfathers who may or may not have had anything to do with discrimination at all, how is one any different from what they are speaking out against?

Bubblehead1980 · 12-09-13, 12:43 PM

I swear sometime in the future, as a social experiment I am going to pay for hollywood style prosthetic makeup to make me look black.Talking Robert Downey JR Tropic Thunder style, go out and see how I am treated in various ways among white people and latinos over time.Willing to bet it's not as it is portrayed for the most part.

AVGWarhawk · 12-09-13, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980

I swear sometime in the future, as a social experiment I am going to pay for hollywood style prosthetic makeup to make me look black.Talking Robert Downey JR Tropic Thunder style, go out and see how I am treated in various ways among white people and latinos over time.Willing to bet it's not as it is portrayed for the most part.

I wager it is.

12-09-13, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

I find nothing wrong with your sentiments on this. Your wording seemed a bit inflammatory, is all.

I just thought it was a humorous take on an exceptionally ridiculous point which someone had advanced.

Though of course I would say that this.....
Really - your going to quote idiocy as your proof? An "answer" that ignores things like racial quota's in schools and affirmative action in the workplace.
Reads like very inflammatory trolling and a personal attack which neither addresses the point made or defends the point which was countered.

Do you think I should report it to them moderator fellows?

12-09-13, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Tribesman:

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Yep, sadly it is alive and well, which does kinda make all those claims about them bad ol' days being over somewhat invalid.
And that last piece is indeed bad, how those bigots could call themselves "Christian" is beyond belief, if that pastor had an ounce of integrity or any shred of christian decency he would have quit the job told the hate filled white supremacist idiots to get off his errrr.....bus.

TarJak · 12-09-13, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980

I swear sometime in the future, as a social experiment I am going to pay for hollywood style prosthetic makeup to make me look black.Talking Robert Downey JR Tropic Thunder style, go out and see how I am treated in various ways among white people and latinos over time.Willing to bet it's not as it is portrayed for the most part.

Its been done. https://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&s...A2NYPDV2r3phaw

https://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&s...1w1ecRqObZQDMQ

TarJak · 12-09-13, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by CaptainHaplo

Really - your going to quote idiocy as your proof? An "answer" that ignores things like racial quota's in schools and affirmative action in the workplace.

Reverse racism (and sexism) is being instituted in elementary schools today. Just look at Harvey Scott K-8, where a lunchtime drum circle is held - but only for "Black or Brown" kids. White and American Indian boys not allowed. Girls not allowed at all. The same kind of thing happens all day long when you look at the quota system we have in colleges, or the affirmative action requirements in the workplace. When programs intentionally lift up mediocrity (again - regardless of race) over those more qualified - its not equality.

The "equal rights movement" wasn't about reverse racism - but that is the outcome today.

Really? You've missed the point again? I'm not going to explain it a third time.

Bubblehead1980 · 12-09-13, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by TarJak

Its been done. https://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&s...A2NYPDV2r3phaw

https://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&s...1w1ecRqObZQDMQ

lol the 5 percenter guys are the kind of trash that are the problem.They preach black supremacy but the feds are not knocking down their door as they would KKK.Hmmm Also, I would make sure my make up was much better, his is not very convincing.

Amazes me how angry he got about the kid yelling the N word haha.People overreact to that word, esp white liberals.The Aussie guy getting so angry, so effeminate, least intimidating guy ever lol his voice just sounds weak.

12-09-13, 05:00 PM

Bubbles I think you need a geography lesson.

Bubblehead1980 · 12-09-13, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribesman

Bubbles I think you need a geography lesson.

Australia* I mean, watched it again.

TarJak · 12-09-13, 07:07 PM

I agree that the 5% guys are part of the problem but I don't see the KKK's doors getting knocked down any more than theirs. Both organisations should not exist but they do and from what I see in the media they are both as bad as one another and treated that way.

How angry should anyone get about a racial slur?

John Safran is a skinny white jewish bloke from Melbourne Australia. He has a squeaky voice. Does that make him effeminate? If you check out more of his work you'll find he's certainly got some stones. How willing are any of us to put ourselves into extremely uncomfortable positions?

The map early in the video shows where Melbourne is.

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Bubblehead1980 Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Florida USA Posts: 7,153 Downloads: 613 Uploads: 44	I swear sometime in the future, as a social experiment I am going to pay for hollywood style prosthetic makeup to make me look black.Talking Robert Downey JR Tropic Thunder style, go out and see how I am treated in various ways among white people and latinos over time.Willing to bet it's not as it is portrayed for the most part.

12-09-13, 05:00 PM	#133
Tribesman Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Bubbles I think you need a geography lesson.

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TarJak Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 17,052 Downloads: 150 Uploads: 8	I agree that the 5% guys are part of the problem but I don't see the KKK's doors getting knocked down any more than theirs. Both organisations should not exist but they do and from what I see in the media they are both as bad as one another and treated that way. How angry should anyone get about a racial slur? John Safran is a skinny white jewish bloke from Melbourne Australia. He has a squeaky voice. Does that make him effeminate? If you check out more of his work you'll find he's certainly got some stones. How willing are any of us to put ourselves into extremely uncomfortable positions? The map early in the video shows where Melbourne is.