Our 51st state?

[Stealhead]

Originally Posted by CaptainMattJ.

That is a given. Of course its the politicians that start wars and the grunts who fight them. But in this case, the top brass were among the biggest advocates of a painfully slow retreat with permanent garrison.

So when i talk about how the "military" is trying to upkeep its image, im talking mostly about the people who threw us into and kept us in those wars.

Yeah but you still said military when you could have said politicians.You must have misread my post if you think I have much love for the top brass generally speaking at least there are a few that have brains.Still though in the end the United States military has two jobs one is to defend the United States from all enemies the other is to defend/attack what ever the politicians deem is a national interest.The nature of the military chain of command by and large precludes its members from questioning lawful orders it also means that a military coup carried out by members of the US military of their own will or at the behest of another nearly impossible.

[CaptainMattJ.]

Originally Posted by Stealhead

Yeah but you still said military when you could have said politicians.You must have misread my post if you think I have much love for the top brass generally speaking at least there are a few that have brains.Still though in the end the United States military has two jobs one is to defend the United States from all enemies the other is to defend/attack what ever the politicians deem is a national interest.The nature of the military chain of command by and large precludes its members from questioning lawful orders it also means that a military coup carried out by members of the US military of their own will or at the behest of another nearly impossible.

I could've, but the people who sent us in and kept us there were both the executive branch (and their puppets in congress) and the top brass. The president is technically a part of the military, and so is the top brass. Thats who i was talking about, obviously not our service members.

[Wolferz]

Look at what Afghanistan has. Opium poppy fields.
Opium has always been the number one commodity for the Russell Trust. (Skull and Bones) Co-founded by William H Russell...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Huntington_Russell

Many members of The Brotherhood of Chaos have been entrenched for decades in our halls of government and its agencies. Particularly the CIA.
They are the ones responsible for our never ending military action in Afghanistan, the war in Iraq and God knows what else.
All of them descendants of the Connecticut WASPs. White Anglo Saxon Protestants. This includes the Bush family.
They were the blue bloods of Britain who left because the king had made Catholicism the national religion and we all know how well the Protestants get along with the Catholics. I would even venture a guess that they were the ones responsible for assassinating JFK and his brother Bobby because they threatened their business of worldwide drug smuggling.

[nikimcbee]

Motion to call it New Detroit.

[Jimbuna]

Pure madness IMHO...can't see what the US population has to benefit from such a position.

[Aktungbby]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

Pure madness IMHO...can't see what the US population has to benefit from such a position.

Same as the last Romans on Hadrian's Wall...nuthin' changes..."My legions Westmoreland my legions...give me back my legions" misquote of Augustus to Varus after the Teuterburger-Wald disaster of 9AD. Sadly applied to Viet Nam-- 50,000+ dead (10 legions to Varus's 3) but he at least had the grace and self respect to to do himself in!

[Ducimus]

Hello Afganistan, I'd like to introduce you to Korea. Korea, this is Afganistan, Afganistan, this is Korea.
World wide remote did you say? We have rotations there.

They were the blue bloods of Britain who left because the king had made Catholicism the national religion and we all know how well the Protestants get along with the Catholics.

Oh dear oh dear.
Are you confusing catholics with the protestant church of England and the protestant dissenters who rejected the epicopalian protestantism of the state religion?
You also seem to be confusing Mary who was a woman that had a very short reign as queen with some male person which is what a king is.

[Wolferz]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

Oh dear oh dear.
Are you confusing catholics with the protestant church of England and the protestant dissenters who rejected the epicopalian protestantism of the state religion?
You also seem to be confusing Mary who was a woman that had a very short reign as queen with some male person which is what a king is.

I'm always confused. That's nothing new.