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Old 11-13-13, 12:57 AM   #1
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hmm a cop, who works for the government and sole job is to cite or arrest someone who has broken the law, often arbitrary, needless laws.A para military culture that does not value constitutional rights and treats every citizen as guilty until proven innocent.The long list of abuses are not just the few.Yes, there are good cops who try to do right, but they are few and far between and will do what they are told most of the time, under the guise of "just doing their job"

A lawyer's job is to uphold the right's of citizens.The criminal defense attorney defends citizens from being fined, imprisoned, and in some cases murdered(executed) by the government.The civil attorney protects your rights in many ways, from making sure if you are injured etc due to someone's negligence etc you have a way to minimize the damage.They protect you from baseless slander. Some lawyers are scumbags sure, good and bad in both professions but in general, removing the people from and just talking about which is a more noble profession? Lawyer wins hands down. There is a reason many of the founders were lawyers.
I agree with Tarjak on this one on one hand you compare a good lawyer to a good cop.then you sit and say how horrible must cops are and how great most lawyers must be.

I have great confidence if a poll where taken and the question what profession do you most dislike lawyer would be at the top and law enforcement would be far from the top.

I am fully aware of what lawyers do and the different kinds of law.Interesting that you completely ignored an entire facet of law.

The founding fathers that where lawyers would be very disgusted if they saw how the current legal system works.

Also only 25 of the 56 signers of the Deceleration of Independence where lawyers and of the 55 framers of the Constitution 32 where lawyers so there was no massive majority of lawyers as you imply using the term many.(a large number of)

Jefferson one of your most admired was only a lawyer for five years.

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Old 11-13-13, 01:13 AM   #2
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I agree with Tarjak on this one on one hand you compare a good lawyer to a good cop.then you sit and say how horrible must cops are and how great most lawyers must be.

I have great confidence if a poll where taken and the question what profession do you most dislike lawyer would be at the top and law enforcement would be far from the top.

The founding fathers that where lawyers would be very disgusted if they saw how the current legal system works.

Also only 25 of the 55 signers of the Deceleration of Independence where lawyers and of the 55 framers of the Constitution 32 where lawyers so actually the majority of the founders where not in fact lawyers.

Jefferson one of your most admired was only a lawyer for five years.
Why Washington is so screwed and crooked, lawyers posing as politicians..
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Why Washington is so screwed and crooked, lawyers posing as politicians..
You pulled ninja on my post I typoed "56" and added a little.

Besides that the founding fathers especially the famous ones that where lawyers also happen to be men of many interests and professions not just law.Law is not the only way to negotiate nor is it the only way to create laws in a nation.

Notice that in order to be a elected to congress heck even the most powerful seat in the nation being a lawyer is not a requirement.Lawyers are not the end all be alls that Bubblehead1980 makes them out to be.

I hope he gets better at convincing people or making them have doubt or that he is better in real life than he is on this forum as based on what we have to see he seems rather poor at making a convincing argument.I am sure that he thinks that I dislike him because I am some liberal bleed heart which is pretty far from the truth.

One can be noble and have any trade it is not the trade that makes a person noble it is their actions.To say that a specific job is some how more noble than another is beside the point.

I would argue that the most noble person is one who teaches others be they a school teacher or a drill instructor by teaching/training a person they are spreading knowledge now that is noble.
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