US ambassador to Germany hauled over the coals over Merkel spying allegations

Penguin · 10-29-13, 06:37 PM

Merkel can cry a big river of crocodile tears. The same woman who denied knowledge of Prism or the NSA or GCHQ surveiling German citizens suddenly cries wolf? Gimme a break.

Germany has always been on top of spying on its own citizens. In the 90s we already had nearly as many telephone surveillances as the US, with less than a third of its population. The difference is that the public here gets even less information about the scale of spying. An intelligence boss speaking in an open parliament session, like Keith Alexander did? Unthinkable in Germany. The plebs don't have to know anything.

The last numbers we got, were from 2010 when 37 million emails (out of an unknown monitored number n) were closer observed. They found "something" in whopping 213 cases, or 0.00058% - how many of those really lead to something usefull or arrests is also unknown.

Today we assume that about 20% of the email traffic in Germany get monitored. The same people who called the GDR an injust system, because it spied on its own citizens, are now fulfilling the wet dreams of the Stasi.

10-29-13, 06:37 PM	#25
Penguin Ocean Warrior Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Rheinische Republik Posts: 3,322 Downloads: 92 Uploads: 0	Merkel can cry a big river of crocodile tears. The same woman who denied knowledge of Prism or the NSA or GCHQ surveiling German citizens suddenly cries wolf? Gimme a break. Germany has always been on top of spying on its own citizens. In the 90s we already had nearly as many telephone surveillances as the US, with less than a third of its population. The difference is that the public here gets even less information about the scale of spying. An intelligence boss speaking in an open parliament session, like Keith Alexander did? Unthinkable in Germany. The plebs don't have to know anything. The last numbers we got, were from 2010 when 37 million emails (out of an unknown monitored number n) were closer observed. They found "something" in whopping 213 cases, or 0.00058% - how many of those really lead to something usefull or arrests is also unknown. Today we assume that about 20% of the email traffic in Germany get monitored. The same people who called the GDR an injust system, because it spied on its own citizens, are now fulfilling the wet dreams of the Stasi.