Thousands re-enact Napoleonic Battle of the Nations - Page 2

TarJak · 10-21-13, 05:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna

The article was highlighting the British figure of 60,000 but I am happy to stand corrected

These numbers are for the dates between 1 July and 18 November 1916:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_...mme#Casualties

Almost 8000 per day over 140 days compared with Stalingrad's 12,000+ per day over 163 days.

Jimbuna · 10-21-13, 06:29 AM

So Stalingrad was the higher figure?

TarJak · 10-21-13, 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna

So Stalingrad was the higher figure?

Yep but Somme would have come in at #2 rather than Leipzig. I just thought it odd that they only counted the first day of the Somme nut the included the full 5 months odd for Stalingrad. Somme went almost 5 months but the first day was certainly the bloodiest.

Jimbuna · 10-21-13, 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by TarJak

Yep but Somme would have come in at #2 rather than Leipzig. I just thought it odd that they only counted the first day of the Somme nut the included the full 5 months odd for Stalingrad. Somme went almost 5 months but the first day was certainly the bloodiest.

Yeah, 'somme' would say that

nikimcbee · 10-21-13, 01:18 PM

@ Jim

When I first saw the thread, I thought it was about the Battle of Austerlitz, which was on Dec 1st. I don't know much about the Battle of Leipzig

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I'd love to go to one of these Napoleonic reenactments, but they don't do them in the US. Plus Napoleonic reenacting is really expensive

, the guns are the cheapest part, the uniforms...not so much.

Jimbuna · 10-21-13, 01:29 PM

I doubt many of us do, just look at the list

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Napoleonic_battles

Oberon · 10-21-13, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by TarJak

Yep but Somme would have come in at #2 rather than Leipzig. I just thought it odd that they only counted the first day of the Somme nut the included the full 5 months odd for Stalingrad. Somme went almost 5 months but the first day was certainly the bloodiest.

Passchendaele too, the casualty toll is still not certain, but it was greater than Leipzig. In fact, to be honest, the rest of the top five could probably be made up of World War One battles and battles of the Great Patriotic War.

nikimcbee · 10-21-13, 01:59 PM

I thought the Battle of Borodino was the mother of all Napoleonic battles.

Dread Knot · 10-21-13, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by nikimcbee

I thought the Battle of Borodino was the mother of all Napoleonic battles.

It certainly was the Mother Russia of all Napoleonic battles.

TarJak · 10-22-13, 05:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Oberon

Passchendaele too, the casualty toll is still not certain, but it was greater than Leipzig. In fact, to be honest, the rest of the top five could probably be made up of World War One battles and battles of the Great Patriotic War.

Luckilly Wikipedia has one already prepared http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of..._by_casualties

Interesting that the Battle of Baghdad in 1258 had a staggering 2.1M casualties. For a classical formation battle that's an incredible number.

Jimbuna · 10-22-13, 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by TarJak

Luckilly Wikipedia has one already prepared http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of..._by_casualties

Interesting that the Battle of Baghdad in 1258 had a staggering 2.1M casualties. For a classical formation battle that's an incredible number.

Looks like it took less than a month or so to get to that figure

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Baghdad_(1258)

Skybird · 10-22-13, 06:19 AM

The Mongolian storm on Baghdad was a wipeout of the city, that's why. The city was destroyed, the population more or less annihilated. On a side note, many of that time's promising "alternative thinkers" and "mystics" of name of the Islamic world were killed there. That's why until today Islam has not really an esoteric, mystic tradition of real size and importance. It'S roots got killed by the Mongolian attack. Sufism later on never became more than just a curiosity that today attracts tourists. The Mongols had gotten some trouble by the order of the Assassines, and solved the problem finally by wiping out their order without making compromises (something all others who were terrorised by them were unfit to achieve). Afterwards they wanted to execute an example against those factions that once were allied or in support of them. The Abassides' caliphate in Persia was top on their list, therefor.

TarJak · 10-22-13, 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna

Looks like it took less than a month or so to get to that figure

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Baghdad_(1258)

Yep the Mongols went through it like a dose of salts.

Jimbuna · 10-22-13, 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by TarJak

Yep the Mongols went through it like a dose of salts.

True that....makes the Nanking Massacre look tiny in comparison.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanking_Massacre

10-21-13, 06:29 AM	#17
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,678 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	So Stalingrad was the higher figure? __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

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nikimcbee Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Patroling the Slot. Posts: 17,952 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	@ Jim When I first saw the thread, I thought it was about the Battle of Austerlitz, which was on Dec 1st. I don't know much about the Battle of Leipzig. I'd love to go to one of these Napoleonic reenactments, but they don't do them in the US. Plus Napoleonic reenacting is really expensive, the guns are the cheapest part, the uniforms...not so much. __________________

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Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,678 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	I doubt many of us do, just look at the list http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Napoleonic_battles __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

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nikimcbee Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Patroling the Slot. Posts: 17,952 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	I thought the Battle of Borodino was the mother of all Napoleonic battles. __________________

10-22-13, 06:19 AM	#27
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,667 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	The Mongolian storm on Baghdad was a wipeout of the city, that's why. The city was destroyed, the population more or less annihilated. On a side note, many of that time's promising "alternative thinkers" and "mystics" of name of the Islamic world were killed there. That's why until today Islam has not really an esoteric, mystic tradition of real size and importance. It'S roots got killed by the Mongolian attack. Sufism later on never became more than just a curiosity that today attracts tourists. The Mongols had gotten some trouble by the order of the Assassines, and solved the problem finally by wiping out their order without making compromises (something all others who were terrorised by them were unfit to achieve). Afterwards they wanted to execute an example against those factions that once were allied or in support of them. The Abassides' caliphate in Persia was top on their list, therefor. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.