Climate Change

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[Mr Quatro]

Edgar Cayce said ...

Now I do not wish to bring up his name for any other reason other than he did say this would happen. That a shifting of poles would occur and many boo hoo his prophecies, but in this instance he has been quite correct so far.

He had many readings, again lets not get into his many other problems of religion or living other lives (reincarnation), but just focus on this one prophecy of his.

The nay sayers have said that he was wrong in stating that this would happen and that it would happen in the mid 1990's, but under closer observation Edgar Cayce did not say that a shifting of the poles would happen in the mid 1990's, but that it would start to happen.

and it did start to happen just as he predicted it would in 1997 with El nino in the western pacific ocean.

Gradually happening is the only reason we are still standing on the planet earth of course. The oceans are increasing in temperature with coral reefs dying and islands being flooded.

Sooner or later it will cause a food chain problem, a problem that man can not cure and a problem that will be blamed on man, but one that is impossible to solve.

Have a nice day anyway for we have many years left to watch the argument of who is to blame.

[Fubar2Niner]

Originally Posted by Mr Quatro

Edgar Cayce said ...

Now I do not wish to bring up his name for any other reason other than he did say this would happen. That a shifting of poles would occur and many boo hoo his prophecies, but in this instance he has been quite correct so far.

He had many readings, again lets not get into his many other problems of religion or living other lives (reincarnation), but just focus on this one prophecy of his.

The nay sayers have said that he was wrong in stating that this would happen and that it would happen in the mid 1990's, but under closer observation Edgar Cayce did not say that a shifting of the poles would happen in the mid 1990's, but that it would start to happen.

and it did start to happen just as he predicted it would in 1997 with El nino in the western pacific ocean.

Gradually happening is the only reason we are still standing on the planet earth of course. The oceans are increasing in temperature with coral reefs dying and islands being flooded.

Sooner or later it will cause a food chain problem, a problem that man can not cure and a problem that will be blamed on man, but one that is impossible to solve.

Have a nice day anyway for we have many years left to watch the argument of who is to blame.

Oooh.. That Edgar......... He were a right bugga weren't he.

[BrucePartington]

Until a reputable scientific source says otherwise, if the magnetic field is indeed shifting, the only thing I believe will happen is our compasses will become increasingly off in relation to "real" North Pole.
As I write these lines, I have not dug up deeply on this subject, but it is my understanding, from all the relevant documentaries I've seen and articles I've read, the Earth's molten core rotates opposite to the outer layers, ever since the Earth came to be.
To sum it all up, I believe this to be of no consequence.
I'm sorry but this sounds just like yet another "doom's day prophecy".

Edit: If we are to make it to "Type 1", our civilization will have to rid itself of religious dogma and superstition.

[Rockstar]

It does sound a little like Art Bell doesn't it ? With so many theories out there to pick from one just never knows.

Movement of magnetic north however I think has been verified by 'reputable scientific source's and is heading at a pretty good clip towards Siberia. Though its thought not likely to continue moving for much longer.

[desertstriker]

known about this and researched it my self and it is all very interesting. while we won't have a dooms day, the effects of a shift could disrupt our electronics and expose us to more solar radiation and we could say bye bye to the northern lights for a bit. and thats just the magnetic shift a total core shift would be slightly more catastrophic.

[Buddahaid]

Originally Posted by BrucePartington

Until a reputable scientific source says otherwise, if the magnetic field is indeed shifting, the only thing I believe will happen is our compasses will become increasingly off in relation to "real" North Pole.
As I write these lines, I have not dug up deeply on this subject, but it is my understanding, from all the relevant documentaries I've seen and articles I've read, the Earth's molten core rotates opposite to the outer layers, ever since the Earth came to be.
To sum it all up, I believe this to be of no consequence.
I'm sorry but this sounds just like yet another "doom's day prophecy".

Edit: If we are to make it to "Type 1", our civilization will have to rid itself of religious dogma and superstition.

It's been proven that the magnetic poles have flip-flopped many times through the Earth's history. The evidence is in the solidified magma that has extruded from the mid-Atlantic rift.

I can't reference the gubmint sources due to the shutdown but here's another.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...1130171105.htm

[BrucePartington]

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

It's been proven that the magnetic poles have flip-flopped many times through the Earth's history. The evidence is in the solidified magma that has extruded from the mid-Atlantic rift.

I can't reference the gubmint sources due to the shutdown but here's another.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...1130171105.htm

Indeed.
Just for clarification, I am aware the magnetic poles have shifted before. I just don't expect it to cause any major extinction event.

[Buddahaid]

Agreed. The article was relating to shifts in the axis of rotation which I would think far more disruptive.

[TorpX]

I doubt there will be much effect beyond those on sensitive electronics and, compasses, of course.

Reminds me of the business associated with the "Harmonic Convergence". Some made outlandish predictions about it. Silly stuff.

[desertstriker]

Originally Posted by TorpX

I doubt there will be much effect beyond those on sensitive electronics and, compasses, of course.

Reminds me of the business associated with the "Harmonic Convergence". Some made outlandish predictions about it. Silly stuff.

Birds will temporarily be disoriented too.

[Buddahaid]

Still, the thread was started on the theory that the Earth's crust shifts to balance spin, and evidence has been found to support a few axial pole shifts. The axis doesn't change, just the whole crust slides over the liquid magma to find equilibrium, and does so over a matter of days. Talk about climate change!

As far as magnetic pole shifts go, the biomass seems to have got on pretty good over millennia so far.

[BrucePartington]

Originally Posted by desertstriker

Birds will temporarily be disoriented too.

I thought of the birds too. They seem to "see" (as in detect, sense, read) the magnetic fields somehow. But I have trouble imagining that the shifts could be so quick that fauna and flora in general had trouble catching up.
For all we know, the Earth (the hunk of rock) is alive: the molten core rotates, tectonic plates never stopped moving around, etc.
So for me this is nothing new to the planet. These shifts take place over long periods of time, and have strongly influenced evolution. Life adapts.
For life to be disrupted by a geological accident, it would have to be something dramatically quicker, like a major volcano erupting, or a rendez-vous with an asteroid.

[mapuc]

As I understand it there are to types of polar shift

the one as mentioned above-the magnetic polar shift

and then it is the physical shift where the earth simply tip over.

The first one the theories about magnetic polar change has a huge amount of scientist behind it

The second theories have mostly conspiracies and a few scientist.

Markus

[Catfish]

The poles are shifting all the time. All sea charts are being corrected every few years to make up for the change. The precession, and tumbling of the earth's axis also changes the magnetic poles, if minimally.

Also major shifting or flip of the poles has always taken place, lots of times in the earth's history, very very often.

(You have to imagine the earth is working like a dynamo, where the outer crust is the coil, and the inner core of iron, is the magnet. The viscous inner mantle makes this movement possible.
The different speed of movement produces the magnetic field, which is vital for the surviving of all life on earth, the magnetic field shielding us from 'very unhealthy' (to say at lest) solar winds.)


That the magnetic north and south pole have changed position several times is not news though, and i am surprised that just of all subsim members seem not to know about it - after all the search for russian submarines gave final evidence for a regular changing, or flip, of the poles

Wegener was the first to postulate the theory as far as i know, but met a lot of resistance by the established geophysicists, like Sir Harold Jeffreys.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Wegener
http://istp.gsfc.nasa.gov/earthmag/reversal.htm