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Old 10-04-13, 05:12 PM   #1
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I have never had a problem with STEAM and the games I have bought ARE identical to the publisher minus being in a few more folders (SH3 and again the SWKOTOR etc. I do not see the problem other than some people are so scared to dive into their computer files or don't know where to look. But it also greatly depends on the game as to how difficult they are to mod. I point to one of my favorite space strategy games "Star ruler" it can be difficult to mod, Endless space is like that as well. Games like COD though are not meant to me modified hence the dificulty for some

It is also harder to find games that are multi-player that are not on platforms like STEAM or Origin. And before you say i am not computer sophisticated i am very computer sophisticated/savy.

BTW have you ever used steam?
desertstriker, I have read your posts before and I KNOW that you are very computer literate. I tried to be very careful in crafting my post so as not to imply that all Steam users, or even a majority of Steam users, are not computer savvy. I did not want to say or even to imply that. I have no reason to think that is the case. And I sincerely apologize for offending you if you got that meaning from my words, and especially if you thought I was questioning your own competence. Clearly, I did not express myself carefully enough. Mea culpa.

The fact that you, a sophisticated user, do not have problems modding Steam games, seems I think, to support my point. Judging by the number of posts I see here at SubSIm, in SH3, SH4, and SH5 forums, a significant number of people do. And it seems to be just Steam users. I don't see large numbers of posts from people who downloaded their games from Amazon. I don't see posts from people with the DVD. All these folks seem to have to do is RTD and the mod works. But Steam users have to be told how to handle the "special" needs of their Steam version. To someone who has never used a Steam product (I am philosophically and economically opposed to the closed ecosystem model), this seems to be pretty indicative that there is something fundamentally different about Steam's products. Perhaps it is something that a sophisticated user like you can easily deal with. But it apparently poses hurdles for a significant number of Steam customers. And, when I read their posts, I see that most of them are unaware of the unique nature of the Steam product. I have visited the Steam website, and, while I find I can recognize in their advertising suggestions of the true nature of their product, I also can see that it wouldn't be obvious to the unsophisticated customer. And that deception, as I said above, is my major beef with Steam. I would never lease a car from a dealer who tried to imply that leasing is the same as ownership. (And, yes, I recognize that is not a perfect analogy, but it serves to make my point.) Steam can sell whatever product they want, and if people are willing to give them money for their product - knowing what that product really is - good for them. This is America. But when a company is misleading and not forthright, I feel a certain obligation to caution others who might be taken in.

You know what you are doing and have made an informed choice. KK. But not everyone is in your position. And I don't think people should be taken advantage of.
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Old 10-04-13, 05:24 PM   #2
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ok i understand what you are saying better now sometimes it just takes a lengthy explanation.
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Old 10-04-13, 05:28 PM   #3
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No prob. Sorry that I did not make myself clearer the first time. Again, I'm sorry if I offended you.
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Old 10-05-13, 10:54 AM   #4
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You also should be able to download the game from Ubisoft's store, for 9.99. That is what I did years ago, since I could not find a copy of the game at a decent price (and it is not steam, it is the full version of the game). I have not had any issues to speak of with this version of the game, not even the CTD stuff most people complain about. I also run many mods, and have no issues with them. If you are interested, here is the link-

http://shop.ubi.com/store/ubina/en_U...C2%AE_III.html
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Old 02-24-14, 06:49 AM   #5
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Ubisoft downloads.

Thanks Dark Knight.

I downloaded it off Steam and its a nightmare. Installed GWX, JGSME and SH3 commander but cant patch it so my watch crew have no binoculars etc....

Think I'll delete Steam and the full install and start again. Its only a fiver off Ubi!

Live and learn and thanks again. Subsim comes up trumps as usual...

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Old 02-24-14, 10:24 AM   #6
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Thanks Dark Knight.

I downloaded it off Steam and its a nightmare. Installed GWX, JGSME and SH3 commander but cant patch it so my watch crew have no binoculars etc....

Think I'll delete Steam and the full install and start again. Its only a fiver off Ubi!

Live and learn and thanks again. Subsim comes up trumps as usual...

Rich.

U-111 just North of Londonderry, Dec 21st 1939.

Would just like to say that i had no issues Patching Steam version of SH3 after watching this video....


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Old 03-29-14, 03:31 PM   #7
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Doing my head in..

Thanks Tiberius!

Watched the video and get the gist after a few watches but went to mediafire to download the hsie hardcode fix and it wont let me. Checked the download section on here and no joy. Went through all the forums and the links are all down to the original hsie patch.
Any ideas. Looks easy to do....

Thanks again,
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Old 03-30-14, 03:41 PM   #8
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[QUOTE=Riccardo1975;2178151]Thanks Dark Knight.

I downloaded it off Steam and its a nightmare. Installed GWX, JGSME and SH3 commander but cant patch it so my watch crew have no binoculars etc....

Think I'll delete Steam and the full install and start again. Its only a fiver off Ubi!

Live and learn and thanks again. Subsim comes up trumps as usual...

Rich.


Looks like it doesn't end there either mates. I have some other stuff off of STEAM and stop by their SH forums from time to time. For SH3, its either how tough or easy it is to download GWX. For SH4, it is that STEAM will not include UBISOFTS 1.4 stock update, with it being sold still in the 1.3 causing either grumbling or confusion , and for SH5, a barrage of complaints that it is simply unable to either download, or crashes when it does. Without bashing STEAM overmuch, as I have had no problems with other downloads, it looks to be another case of Caveat Emptor where the SH series is concerned.
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Old 04-13-14, 12:17 PM   #9
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You also should be able to download the game from Ubisoft's store, for 9.99. That is what I did years ago, since I could not find a copy of the game at a decent price (and it is not steam, it is the full version of the game). I have not had any issues to speak of with this version of the game, not even the CTD stuff most people complain about. I also run many mods, and have no issues with them. If you are interested, here is the link-

http://shop.ubi.com/store/ubina/en_U...C2%AE_III.html
Thx for the link DK just picked up a copy for £4.Well worth it to save having to install from disc with starforce
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