Obamacare

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

I've told you before, leave it for the Civil War threads. I even answered several of your claims, but you never answered back, yet here you are spewing the same crap again, changing the subject just so you can have your say unchallenged. Try having a real discussion for a change.


Goes for you too.

I thought this thread was about Obamacare?

Shouldn't be anything on here referring to past presidents as 'tyrants' or 'wars of aggression' for that matter.

I pride myself in being a pretty tolerant person but when I've already PM'd someone asking for a change in posting behaviour and that fails to work I'm given no choice other than to draw a line.

No more warnings.

[Mr Quatro]

The thread did take a turn for awhile there, but back to Obamacare (I did like the passion of CaptainMattJ. post however)

Did you know that the emergency rooms in the United States operated on a five (5) billion dollar loss last year?

I say let the Uncle Sam give them ten (10) billion dollars a year to subsidize them and the heck with "obamacare" costing every man woman and child in America X amount of dollars, not to mention that the rules mandated by "obamacare" of the IRS having the right to take money out of your account to pay for this huge heath care bill (and they say put money in) is just one law (passed) away from being for the taxes you owe on quarterly schedule so they can have the money faster.

This "obamacare" is like an ice sculpture ... it will never be finished and in the end it will melt America down to it's core.

[Bubblehead1980]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

I've told you before, leave it for the Civil War threads. I even answered several of your claims, but you never answered back, yet here you are spewing the same crap again, changing the subject just so you can have your say unchallenged. Try having a real discussion for a change.


Goes for you too.

Umm it was not me who brought up the civil war, it was CaptainMatt.I simply responded.Thanks

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980

Umm it was not me who brought up the civil war, it was CaptainMatt.I simply responded.Thanks

So anyway, there I was on the ACA exchanges and.......

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980

Umm it was not me who brought up the civil war, it was CaptainMatt.I simply responded.Thanks

Yes, he brought it up. He even went a little overboard. You responded with your usual long-winded rant about how awful Lincoln was. You hate someone. Fine, but I've warned you before about using threads for your personal tirades, especially where they don't belong. Do it again at your peril.

Sorry for the OT , but just to clarify one point

The expression "War of Northern Aggression" was coined to make the Civil War sound more like a war between two independent nations instead of an actual civil war. It always rankled the South that they were never recognized as such at home or abroad.

I know, but the point I was making is that it was coined at the time when a certain lady made a little bit of fuss about sitting at the back of a bus.
If it was truly about foreign and domestic recognition of the confederacy you would find no shortage of examples of its use prior to the 1950s .
Its a term which just erupts in 1956 during the bus boycott in Montgomery.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

Sorry for the OT , but just to clarify one point

I know, but the point I was making is that it was coined at the time when a certain lady made a little bit of fuss about sitting at the back of a bus.
If it was truly about foreign and domestic recognition of the confederacy you would find no shortage of examples of its use prior to the 1950s .
Its a term which just erupts in 1956 during the bus boycott in Montgomery.

Sorry, this is not the Civil War thread. Clarify it in a PM.

[Mr Quatro]

Just found some real hope here that the "affordable healthcare act of 2010" can be delayed as long as the Congress is in charge and there is nothing the Senate or the President can do about it thanks to the Supreme Court and Justice Roberts ruling that this is a tax ...

Go ahead read it for yourselves ... no tax can't be justified except by the US Congress: http://www.examiner.com/article/obam...enate-approval
Obamacare can be defunded without Senate approval

Dr. Harold Pease, an expert on the United States Constitution, stated that the authority in dealing with Obamacare funding belongs to the U.S. House, not the U.S. Senate and that the House is doing this all wrong.

Pease went on to say, “All bills for raising revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives; but the Senate may propose or concur with Amendments as on other Bills. To fund anything, in this case Obamacare, first approval is required by the House of Representatives.”

“If that does not happen taxpayer money cannot be spent. The people, through their representatives to Congress, have determined, after a three-year closer scrutiny of The Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (Obamacare), that it does not protect the patient, is not affordable and is not even workable; hence in the interests of the vast majority of the people needs to be defunded.”

Originally Posted by Mr Quatro

This "obamacare" is like an ice sculpture ... it will never be finished and in the end it will melt America down to it's core.

that's one of the best and most accurate ways I have heard it described

wether you think its good or bad, right or wrong, boondoggle or great program, no matter which side you are on its obvious this thing will destroy health care as we know it. one side is in denial over how bad it really is and the other is utterly outraged by it but it will still happen no matter what the American people want or say about it so just remember that the next time you think voting and who you vote for doesn't matter.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Mr Quatro

Just found some real hope here that the "affordable healthcare act of 2010" can be delayed as long as the Congress is in charge and there is nothing the Senate or the President can do about it thanks to the Supreme Court and Justice Roberts ruling that this is a tax ...

Go ahead read it for yourselves ... no tax can't be justified except by the US Congress: http://www.examiner.com/article/obam...enate-approval
Obamacare can be defunded without Senate approval

Since when did the Dems care what the Constitution states?

[Tchocky]

Starting to sound like Bubblehead in here

[Mr Quatro]

Originally Posted by Tchocky

Starting to sound like Bubblehead in here

without the pendulum there is no slang and without the ying there is no yang

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Tchocky

Starting to sound like Bubblehead in here

Well Tchocky, some like to drink the juice.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Mr Quatro

without the pendulum there is no slang and without the ying there is no yang

Glad that was cleared up.

[Oberon]

Originally Posted by Tchocky

Starting to sound like Bubblehead in here

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