End war on drugs, says police chief

Jimbuna · 09-30-13, 10:01 AM

I believe drugs are dangerous, they destroy lives and sections of society.

Long may the ban live on.

STEED · 09-30-13, 10:29 AM

Ban sugar that kills millions every year.

A interesting point I heard the other day.

AVGWarhawk · 09-30-13, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna

I believe drugs are dangerous, they destroy lives and sections of society.

Long may the ban live on.

Agreed. Like I asked, when will it stop? Today weed, tomorrow heroin. On it goes.

Sailor Steve · 09-30-13, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Agreed. Like I asked, when will it stop? Today weed, tomorrow heroin. On it goes.

So let's outlaw booze again, for the same reasons.

Jimbuna · 09-30-13, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

So let's outlaw booze again, for the same reasons.

Don't you dare...torture is outlawed in western countries

Wolferz · 09-30-13, 01:27 PM

There are many dangerous things in the world. Should we make them all contraband and just cower in our homes until we die of starvation?

Too much of anything will kill you.
If a person wishes to do drugs in moderation then that should be their choice. Not the will of a bunch of holier than thou hypocrites who smoke big old Cuban cigars while they sip their whisky sours and drive home drunk on the capitol beltway.

Their laws have done very little to curb the appetites for these substances. They have done nothing more than finish ruining the lives of those who allowed them to rule their life. They have even gone so far as to prime the pump, so to speak, with the DARE programs in the elementary schools. Drug Access Really Easy kids. Just look in mommy and daddy's medicine cabinet. The worst drug pushers on the planet advertise on TV and you can see their agents every time you go to the doctor.
George Carlin said it best... We're a drug oriented society. Head hurts? Two in the mouth. These are orange kids. The other colors come later.

antikristuseke · 09-30-13, 01:35 PM

Why the double standard?

AVGWarhawk · 09-30-13, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

So let's outlaw booze again, for the same reasons.

Ok, the crap is no good for you.

Ducimus · 09-30-13, 01:43 PM

I think the "war on drugs" is a lost cause, however, I also don't agree with legaization either. I think the whole "war" concept needs to be let go.

I think:

- the money spent in executing this war domestically is better spent on education of drugs to dissuade use. I'll wager that will be far cheaper, and in the long view have greater success then sting operations and knocking down doors. The current habitual drug users, addicts, junkies, etc, are lost causes. The best we can do is work to dissuade future generations.

- many of the lesser drug related charges that result in prison time should be reduced to paying a stringent fee, or if the fee cannot be paid, by compulsory community service for a length of time to work off that fee. Our prison system are overloaded, and ill wager cost too much money to operate. Also, our prison systems create people that can be more dangerous coming out then they were going in. No need to exacerbate any of these problems with lesser offences.

AVGWarhawk · 09-30-13, 01:48 PM

Stealhead · 09-30-13, 05:33 PM

The reality is simply put there are many Americans whose cup of coffee is cocaine or Meth or Crack.People will always demand drugs you really can do nothing about this completely the best you can do is have effect campaigns that discourage drug use and try to get the ones addicted sober.Throughout history there have been problems with drug abuse.

Until you solve the addiction problem (or maybe the better term is deal with not solve) you will never win a "war on drugs" because the demand for them is so high(no pun intended) that no matter what LE tactic you try you will never stop the flow you may slow it but never stop it.In fact the LE efforts most likely only serve to make the sale of drugs more profitable for the suppliers not less.

On top of this what of all the companies that sell all the LE gear used in the WAD(War On Drugs)? These companies make millions on WAD.The WAD ignores the root cause of the problem completely.

09-30-13, 10:01 AM	#1
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 191,437 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	I believe drugs are dangerous, they destroy lives and sections of society. Long may the ban live on. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

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STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	Ban sugar that kills millions every year. A interesting point I heard the other day. __________________ Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT!

09-30-13, 01:27 PM	#6
Wolferz Navy Seal Join Date: May 2007 Location: On a mighty quest for the Stick of Truth Posts: 5,963 Downloads: 52 Uploads: 0	There are many dangerous things in the world. Should we make them all contraband and just cower in our homes until we die of starvation? Too much of anything will kill you. If a person wishes to do drugs in moderation then that should be their choice. Not the will of a bunch of holier than thou hypocrites who smoke big old Cuban cigars while they sip their whisky sours and drive home drunk on the capitol beltway. Their laws have done very little to curb the appetites for these substances. They have done nothing more than finish ruining the lives of those who allowed them to rule their life. They have even gone so far as to prime the pump, so to speak, with the DARE programs in the elementary schools. Drug Access Really Easy kids. Just look in mommy and daddy's medicine cabinet. The worst drug pushers on the planet advertise on TV and you can see their agents every time you go to the doctor. George Carlin said it best... We're a drug oriented society. Head hurts? Two in the mouth. These are orange kids. The other colors come later. __________________ Tomorrow never comes Last edited by Wolferz; 09-30-13 at 01:42 PM.

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AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,303 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	__________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

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antikristuseke Silent Hunter Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Estland Posts: 4,330 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	Why the double standard?

09-30-13, 01:43 PM	#9
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	I think the "war on drugs" is a lost cause, however, I also don't agree with legaization either. I think the whole "war" concept needs to be let go. I think: - the money spent in executing this war domestically is better spent on education of drugs to dissuade use. I'll wager that will be far cheaper, and in the long view have greater success then sting operations and knocking down doors. The current habitual drug users, addicts, junkies, etc, are lost causes. The best we can do is work to dissuade future generations. - many of the lesser drug related charges that result in prison time should be reduced to paying a stringent fee, or if the fee cannot be paid, by compulsory community service for a length of time to work off that fee. Our prison system are overloaded, and ill wager cost too much money to operate. Also, our prison systems create people that can be more dangerous coming out then they were going in. No need to exacerbate any of these problems with lesser offences.

09-30-13, 05:33 PM	#11
Stealhead Navy Seal Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Kentucky Posts: 5,421 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	The reality is simply put there are many Americans whose cup of coffee is cocaine or Meth or Crack.People will always demand drugs you really can do nothing about this completely the best you can do is have effect campaigns that discourage drug use and try to get the ones addicted sober.Throughout history there have been problems with drug abuse. Until you solve the addiction problem (or maybe the better term is deal with not solve) you will never win a "war on drugs" because the demand for them is so high(no pun intended) that no matter what LE tactic you try you will never stop the flow you may slow it but never stop it.In fact the LE efforts most likely only serve to make the sale of drugs more profitable for the suppliers not less. On top of this what of all the companies that sell all the LE gear used in the WAD(War On Drugs)? These companies make millions on WAD.The WAD ignores the root cause of the problem completely.