How to Use TDW GenericPatcher for Beginer

[Sjizzle]

Originally Posted by plj

Meh .. I'm being stupid ...


I mean the .dll files TDWFileUtils.dll and TDWUtils.dll .. but I doubt they are changed now .. and I should be paying more attention :p

I am using the JSGME method to put the generic patcher stuff into my game .. as per instructions found here, adapted a little for missing files the new patchers looks for.

I went on the assumption that needing them means changing them .. which seems to be in error :p

this 2 .dll's from game folder must not be overwrite by the patcher.... that's why i say do not enable the patcher with JGSME.... the patcher it's a stand alone application .... somewhere TDW mentioned that i can't find it where but when i will find it than i will show u ...

[plj]

Thanks Sjizzle .. now it makes sense to me :p I have this issue where I need to understand something if I am to accept it :p

[gap]

Originally Posted by plj

Meh .. I'm being stupid ...


I mean the .dll files TDWFileUtils.dll and TDWUtils.dll .. but I doubt they are changed now .. and I should be paying more attention :p

I am using the JSGME method to put the generic patcher stuff into my game .. as per instructions found here, adapted a little for missing files the new patchers looks for.

I went on the assumption that needing them means changing them .. which seems to be in error :p

Originally Posted by Sjizzle

this 2 .dll's from game folder must not be overwrite by the patcher.... that's why i say do not enable the patcher with JGSME.... the patcher it's a stand alone application .... somewhere TDW mentioned that i can't find it where but when i will find it than i will show u ...

Sjizzle, you are misunderstanding the method suggested by Trevally and correctly used by plj. He didn't say he enabled the patcher with JSGME. Ig I got him right, he only made a copy of the files affected by TDW's patches, patched them, and enabled them using JSGME as if they were a normal mod. Since no other mod affects the same files, file conflicts or mod order are not an issue. To my understanding, following the above steps hasn't any side effect and it is the best way to keep stock files clean, in case TDW changes patcher version or something goes wrong during the patching process.

[Sjizzle]

Originally Posted by gap

Sjizzle, you are misunderstanding the method suggested by Trevally and correctly used by plj. He didn't say he enabled the patcher with JSGME. Ig I got him right, he only made a copy of the files affected by TDW's patches, patched them, and enabled them using JSGME as if they were a normal mod. Since no other mod affects the same files, file conflicts or mod order are not an issue. To my understanding, following the above steps hasn't any side effect and it is the best way to keep stock files clean, in case TDW changes patcher version or something goes wrong during the patching process.

sorry for my mistakes...my eyes are like 2 big Bulbs
now i didnt sleep more then 35h i realy need a bed now ...

[gap]

Originally Posted by Sjizzle

sorry for my mistakes...my eyes are like 2 big Bulbs
now i didnt sleep more then 35h i realy need a bed now ...

backlog?!

[Mikemike47]

Originally Posted by plj

I mean the .dll files TDWFileUtils.dll and TDWUtils.dll .. but I doubt they are changed now .. and I should be paying more attention :p

Originally Posted by Sjizzle

this 2 .dll's from game folder must not be overwrite by the patcher.... that's why i say do not enable the patcher with JGSME.... the patcher it's a stand alone application .... somewhere TDW mentioned that i can't find it where but when i will find it than i will show u ...

Originally Posted by gap

He didn't say he enabled the patcher with JSGME. Ig I got him right, he only made a copy of the files affected by TDW's patches, patched them, and enabled them using JSGME as if they were a normal mod. To my understanding, following the above steps hasn't any side effect and it is the best way to keep stock files clean, in case TDW changes patcher version or something goes wrong during the patching process.

Originally Posted by Sjizzle

sorry for my mistakes...my eyes are like 2 big Bulbs
now i didnt sleep more then 35h i realy need a bed now ...

No problem Sjizzle. Please get some well deserved rest. Thanks for your help and glad we can help you.

The TDW****.dll files do not come from the TDW patcher but from TDW's New UIs for TDC.

[plj]

Originally Posted by Mikemike47

The TDW****.dll files do not come from the TDW patcher but from TDW's New UIs for TDC.

I know .. what I did is create a folder in my JSGME 'MODS' folder for the generic patcher, installed all my mods except that one, copied over the TDWUtils and FileUtils.dll to that generic patcher folder in my JSGME 'MODS' folder, including any missing .act files.

At this point my generic patcher folder contains the current state of my gamefiles, including the .exe and any and all files acted on or needed by the generic patcher.

I now use the patcher, and enable/change whatever I want and close the patcher.

Now I use JSGME to install the 'mod'.

Whenever I want to add or remove a mod, I first disable the 'patcher mod', which should bring my game folder back to pre-patch state, and then I disable/update the rest of my mods.

The goal is to keep it relatively easy to plug stuf in or change things, without going full FUBAR all the time and needing to keep a copy of a clean SH5 install to revert to every time I screw up :p

[Mikemike47]

Originally Posted by plj

I know .. what I did is create a folder in my JSGME 'MODS' folder for the generic patcher, installed all my mods except that one, copied over the TDWUtils and FileUtils.dll to that generic patcher folder in my JSGME 'MODS' folder, including any missing .act files.

No, no, no. No to install. I did not spot if you use New UIs for TDC as I quickly scanned past posts. Unless you see some advantage to installing these TDW***.dlls to the root folder, see a benefit without the use of New UIs for TDC being installed as a mod?

Originally Posted by plj

At this point my generic patcher folder contains the current state of my gamefiles, including the .exe and any and all files acted on or needed by the generic patcher.

I now use the patcher, and enable/change whatever I want and close the patcher. Now I use JSGME to install the 'mod'. Whenever I want to add or remove a mod, I first disable the 'patcher mod', which should bring my game folder back to pre-patch state, and then I disable/update the rest of my mods.

I do a similar thing as a mod for TDW patcher using JSGME as long as instructions (for our newbie or rookie subsimmers out there) are followed on how to enable individual patches for TDW patcher.