Gun battle at Kenya shopping centre - Page 2

Skybird · 09-22-13, 05:55 PM

I read a german report earlier today that it were Israeli commandos going into the building.

True, not true, I don't know. They would not want to raise high profile over it. Was not mentioned again, AFAIK.

eddie · 09-22-13, 06:40 PM

Reports here mention Israeli advisors, but no direct involvement by Israeli troops of any kind.

Jimbuna · 09-23-13, 05:08 AM

BBC reckon it's still going on...updated an hour ago:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-24199351

Oberon · 09-23-13, 05:57 AM

Looks like the endgame is starting to be played out.

American forces/advisers are on the scene as well as Israelis apparently.

Jimbuna · 09-23-13, 08:24 AM

Rgr that:

Nairobi Westgate attack: 'Assault begins' to break siege.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-24206913

09-23-13, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Schroeder

In German news they said that the attackers allowed all Muslims to leave unharmed...if that is true than it's definitely a terror strike.

If they would have shot all the Muslims too, would it not have been a terror strike then?
It is an act of terror non the less.
Some sick peoples Ideology strikes again. Let's hope for the best... even if that sounds a little stupid after what, ~70 killed all ready?

Armistead · 09-23-13, 11:01 AM

Terrible, if you couldn't prove you were Muslim you were shot. Worse, possible American and Canadians part of the terror group.

Any reports on number dead?

09-23-13, 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Armistead

Terrible, if you couldn't prove you were Muslim you were shot. Worse, possible American and Canadians part of the terror group.

Any reports on number dead?

See post above yours. Around 70 so far. And there will be more, no doubt.

Jimbuna · 09-23-13, 11:19 AM

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The official death toll stands at 62 and more than 170 have been injured.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-24206913

Schroeder · 09-23-13, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Nippelspanner

If they would have shot all the Muslims too, would it not have been a terror strike then?

It could have meant that these guys were just gangsters out to take hostages and take ransom. There was not much info when I wrote that so it was unclear yet whether it was a terror strike or just an "normal" criminal event to make money.

eddie · 09-23-13, 03:19 PM

Doesn't seem like its ever going to end.

http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2...e-goes-on?lite

Oberon · 09-23-13, 03:30 PM

Slow, steady, methodical. Make them work to your timetable, not you rush to theirs. Close the net slowly and thoroughly, making sure no gaps are made.

It's a tricky environment to work in, a shopping mall, lots of angles, lots of exits and entry points. It'll take a while to sweep it properly. There could still be civilians inside too, which makes it tricky, as well as the possibility of combatants hiding as civilians.

eddie · 09-23-13, 05:11 PM

You are right Oberon, it will take time. I've seen reports where some of the militants are dressed as women! Also read that when the attack started, a French woman and her daughter were gunned down in a parking lot.

Jimbuna · 09-24-13, 05:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oberon

Slow, steady, methodical. Make them work to your timetable, not you rush to theirs. Close the net slowly and thoroughly, making sure no gaps are made.

It's a tricky environment to work in, a shopping mall, lots of angles, lots of exits and entry points. It'll take a while to sweep it properly. There could still be civilians inside too, which makes it tricky, as well as the possibility of combatants hiding as civilians.

One things for sure, there will be one huge enquiry at the end of this mess.

TarJak · 09-24-13, 06:10 AM

Kenyan Foreign Minister states that there were British and American citizens taking part in the terrorist attack. The operation continues: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-09-2...ackers/4978394

09-22-13, 05:55 PM	#16
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,696 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	I read a german report earlier today that it were Israeli commandos going into the building. True, not true, I don't know. They would not want to raise high profile over it. Was not mentioned again, AFAIK. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

09-22-13, 06:40 PM	#17
eddie Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,023 Downloads: 99 Uploads: 0	Reports here mention Israeli advisors, but no direct involvement by Israeli troops of any kind. __________________ Don't mistake my kindness for weakness. I'm kind to everyone, but when someone is unkind to me, weak is not what you are going to remember about me. Al Capone

09-23-13, 05:08 AM	#18
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,788 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	BBC reckon it's still going on...updated an hour ago: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-24199351 __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

09-23-13, 08:24 AM	#20
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,788 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Rgr that: Nairobi Westgate attack: 'Assault begins' to break siege. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-24206913 __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

09-23-13, 11:01 AM	#22
Armistead Rear Admiral Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: on the Dan Posts: 10,880 Downloads: 364 Uploads: 0	Terrible, if you couldn't prove you were Muslim you were shot. Worse, possible American and Canadians part of the terror group. Any reports on number dead? __________________ You see my dog don't like people laughing. He gets the crazy idea you're laughing at him. Now if you apologize like I know you're going to, I might convince him that you really didn't mean it.

09-23-13, 05:57 AM	#19
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	Looks like the endgame is starting to be played out. American forces/advisers are on the scene as well as Israelis apparently.

09-23-13, 03:19 PM	#26
eddie Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,023 Downloads: 99 Uploads: 0	Doesn't seem like its ever going to end. http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2...e-goes-on?lite __________________ Don't mistake my kindness for weakness. I'm kind to everyone, but when someone is unkind to me, weak is not what you are going to remember about me. Al Capone

09-23-13, 03:30 PM	#27
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	Slow, steady, methodical. Make them work to your timetable, not you rush to theirs. Close the net slowly and thoroughly, making sure no gaps are made. It's a tricky environment to work in, a shopping mall, lots of angles, lots of exits and entry points. It'll take a while to sweep it properly. There could still be civilians inside too, which makes it tricky, as well as the possibility of combatants hiding as civilians.

09-23-13, 05:11 PM	#28
eddie Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,023 Downloads: 99 Uploads: 0	You are right Oberon, it will take time. I've seen reports where some of the militants are dressed as women! Also read that when the attack started, a French woman and her daughter were gunned down in a parking lot. __________________ Don't mistake my kindness for weakness. I'm kind to everyone, but when someone is unkind to me, weak is not what you are going to remember about me. Al Capone

09-24-13, 06:10 AM	#30
TarJak Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 17,052 Downloads: 150 Uploads: 8	Kenyan Foreign Minister states that there were British and American citizens taking part in the terrorist attack. The operation continues: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-09-2...ackers/4978394