Syria conflict: 'Chemical attacks kill hundreds' - Page 78

mapuc · 09-15-13, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

It isn't his words or his opinion that get him mocked. It's the fact that he never debates or discusses anything. He says something like his above post, then runs away and hides. His idea of "debate" has so far consisted of posting multiple links and then disappearing again. If you challenge him he'll just post more links. I have yet to see him contribute anything to a debate.

I apologize if that's rude, but I've tried to engage him in the past and his response was always exactly as I described it. I wish he would defend his statements, but he probably never will.

That's why I wrote this, when I replied soopamans post

"However it is a very good reason to why I just ignore such a post"

Markus

soopaman2 · 09-15-13, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by mapuc

True. one could ask him to explain his outrage against BBC. If he has any proof of his allegation.

However it is a very good reason to why I just ignore such a post. But I do not muck a person just because of his or her conspiracy-belief. I try really not to.

Markus

I understand, I for one enjoy watching people bury themselves, and was hoping he would fall into it.

God knows it happened to me a few times. I was butchered by the community, as I should have been.

I at least allowed myself to be called out, this guy hits and runs.
Grow a set, state your gripe.

So pal, seriously, BBC?

I'll share my views on Fox and MSNBC , if you share yours on BBC, promise?

Pinky promise?

I am farting into the wind aren't I ?

eddie · 09-15-13, 04:58 PM

I would be willing to bet tonschk is not originally from the UK. At least his posts make it seem that way.

mapuc · 09-15-13, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by soopaman2

I understand, I for one enjoy watching people bury themselves, and was hoping he would fall into it.

God knows it happened to me a few times. I was butchered by the community, as I should have been.

I at least allowed myself to be called out, this guy hits and runs.
Grow a set, state your gripe.

So pal, seriously, BBC?

I'll share my views on Fox and MSNBC , if you share yours on BBC, promise?

Pinky promise?

I am farting into the wind aren't I ?

I think you misunderstood me. I have nothing against BBC, I just defended his(tonschk) right to have a opinion.

But you are right he should have explain why.

Markus

09-15-13, 05:19 PM

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The BBC belong to the United Kingdom regime, and is just a UK regime PROPAGANDA machine to spread UK regime LIES

CAPSLOCK for the instant lose

kraznyi_oktjabr · 09-15-13, 05:29 PM

Markus, if someone - repeatedly - makes controversial claims without backing them with his/her own arguments (links alone do not count) and is not ready to debate - then he/she (IMHO) really deserve all the mockery community can muster within community rules.

August · 09-15-13, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna

One more point....love or hate Obama, if he hadn't of threatened military action does anyone seriously believe Russia would have got themselves involved?

But the threat of US military action has existed almost as long as the civil war. What Putin has done is get us to take that off the table for months if not years and i'll bet that extends to military aid to the rebels too.

Basically we've abandoned the opposition.

Feuer Frei! · 09-15-13, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

It isn't his words or his opinion that get him mocked.

In my eyes that also is a big factor

Skybird · 09-15-13, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna

One more point....love or hate Obama, if he hadn't of threatened military action does anyone seriously believe Russia would have got themselves involved?

The "threat"

had nothign to do with Putin'S sudden initiative, even less so since Kerry and Oba,ma made it clear how weak the strikes were meant to be, how little they should do, how short they would last, and that one does not aim at anything they could precisely define any kind of objective that shoud,l be acheived at all. Whikle they outlined they wanted to "punish" Assad, whatevr they meant by that, they also made it clear that the punishement should not be decisive and should not make a real difference. Obama opened to Putin an opportunity to score - and so the Russians took the invitation. The Russians have a plan, but not regarding the chemical weapons. The weapons are just a tool of their plan, and the plan's intention is to stabilize Assad and deliver Obama's optimistically so-called "foreign policy" a humiliating defeat. After Obama's haughty lecturing of Putin some weeks ago, there was an open bill between the two to settle. Also, Obama's back-forth-zig-zag-strong-weak-yes-no approach on the issue opened a tasty, fat, vulnerable flank to Russian diplomacy to land a crushing blow and leave American reputation bleeding on the stage and showing unignorable (is there such a word?) signs of lacking orientation and weakness. MacCain and some Republicans see it correctly when accusing Obama of having made the US looking extremely weak. And that was the plan and intention of Putin. That he makes it look as if he is helping a friend and Obama and Kerry even must thank him in front of the cameras, makes the revenge just that precious little bit sweeter.

There is no virtue in showing weakness, or being weak. Weakness is weakness, and it absolutely is nothing more than just that. I do not judge here whether the US are weak or not. I just say Obama does his best with his confused politics to make the US appearing weaker than was said the US would be after the 4 years of Carter. And that is completely Obama's very own fault. From the POV of an empire that the US are, the man is a foreign political disaster. And that already was to be seen years ago when he lowered his trousers and submissively bent over to the Muslim world in Cairo. From that speech on, the man had lost any remaining benefit of doubt as far as my view of him is concerned.

Sailor Steve · 09-15-13, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribesman

CAPSLOCK for the instant lose

When in doubt, SHOUT!

Feuer Frei! · 09-16-13, 03:40 AM

Going back to the 13th of this month most of us would remember Obama's speech to the good citizens of USA.

A paragraph of it:

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That's what makes us exceptional," Obama said. "With humility, but with resolve, let us never lose sight of that essential truth

Putin's response?

Very very sweet, dripping with poison:

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It is extremely dangerous to encourage people to see themselves as exceptional, whatever the motivation

Putin concluded with:

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We are all different, but when we ask for the Lord's blessings, we must not forget that God created us equal.

Now, ok, i didn't quote his last line to start religious discussions.

American exceptionalism taking a hit?

I guess my point in posting the above is not to get off-topic, but to show that Putin gives as good as he gets.

Is exceptionalism a matter of interpretation?
You could be excused for thinking so.
Interpreted between patriotism and a superiority complex?
Ok the last bit is a bit sensitive and not meant to start flame wars here.

Source for above quotes
here

Jimbuna · 09-16-13, 05:33 AM

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Originally Posted by soopaman2

I understand, I for one enjoy watching people bury themselves, and was hoping he would fall into it.

God knows it happened to me a few times. I was butchered by the community, as I should have been.

I at least allowed myself to be called out, this guy hits and runs.
Grow a set, state your gripe.

So pal, seriously, BBC?

I'll share my views on Fox and MSNBC , if you share yours on BBC, promise?

Pinky promise?

I am farting into the wind aren't I ?

More like flogging the proverbial dead horse

soopaman2 · 09-16-13, 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by mapuc

I think you misunderstood me. I have nothing against BBC, I just defended his(tonschk) right to have a opinion.

But you are right he should have explain why.

Markus

Oh no, I kinda used your post as a piggyback, where I kinda address you at first, then turn my attention back the other fella.

I coulda structured my post better, The first 2 sentences were meant for you, the rest was adressed to the tinfoil hat man.

Sorry.

I understood your intent. My intent was not to go after you.

Catfish · 09-16-13, 01:05 PM

Well, it depends on the definition of democracy.
As for living in the better part of the world when it comes to governments, agreed.
As for democracy? Not really.

Mr Quatro · 09-16-13, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Aktungbby

"ALL government is bad; the trick is to live where it is least worst!"

This is a good and faithful saying

Let me add that you should also live in a state that has plenty of fire wood so you can stay warm in case of a nuclear winter

09-15-13, 05:29 PM	#1161
kraznyi_oktjabr Sea Lord Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Republiken Finland Posts: 1,803 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	Markus, if someone - repeatedly - makes controversial claims without backing them with his/her own arguments (links alone do not count) and is not ready to debate - then he/she (IMHO) really deserve all the mockery community can muster within community rules. __________________ You talk to God, you're religious. God talks to you, you're psychotic. - Dr. House

09-15-13, 04:58 PM	#1158
eddie Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,023 Downloads: 99 Uploads: 0	I would be willing to bet tonschk is not originally from the UK. At least his posts make it seem that way.

09-16-13, 01:05 PM	#1169
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 17,773 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	Well, it depends on the definition of democracy. As for living in the better part of the world when it comes to governments, agreed. As for democracy? Not really.