Conspiracies, sheeple, the universe and everything

[Platapus]

Originally Posted by Dowly

This is true.

And there's a lot of "romantic porn" out there these days, which is waaaay better
than the "mainstream" crap.

Romantic porn?

Is that where he says "thank you" after tying her up and urinating on her?

Or is there a different type out there?

[Dowly]

Originally Posted by Platapus

Romantic porn?

The kind that doesn't look like a rape as most of the "mainstream" crap looks like these days.

Guess the correct term is "Erotic Porn", I don't know, but's it's very nice.
Almost reminds me of those older french/italian films from Salieri and that other
guy who's name I never remember... anywho, did tons of films featuring Laure Sinclair/Sainclair.







Remember kids: Porn is good for you!




EDIT: Marc Dorcel was the other director!

EDIT2: Actually, the porn industry being "devilish" should be our next conspiracy.

[Penguin]

Originally Posted by Platapus

I do wish people would make up their minds about the US government.

Which is it?

1. The government is incompetent and unable to run even the simplest project without mucking it up, nor is the government able to keep a single secret.. uh.. well.. secret.

or

2. The government is all powerful and capable to planning, implementing, covering up massive conspiracies involving thousands of people (from different political viewpoints) among scores of different agencies (and sometimes international organizations) and keeping it quiet for decades.

Ya really can't have it both ways.

As a media whore, I'd like to add the following question:

Are the people who work in the media:
a) Commies
b) ignorant sheep
c) intentionally helping the government/the media owners/another entity to fulfill its plan?

[Mittelwaechter]

@Platapus

I tend to No.1 - they mucked it up. Their baby was the Pentagon attack - and so much public available data shows their unability to run it properly.
(There was an explosion inside the Pentagon (09:32), minutes before the airliner "hit the building" (09:37:42)? The cabin door of "AA77" wasn't opened during the whole flight?)
They wanted the public to support their intentions in Middle East and at home, so they used their own "Al Qaeda" to "hit the building".

The real Al Quaeda wanted to highjack an airliner, to free Omar Abdel-Rahman - the Blind Sheik.
The US knew it way before and decided to jump on that train.

If the US didn't run the WTC attack, there is a "Third Al Qaeda" - a foreign supported group - that did it.
Some US persons of influence were supportive, they helped them. They didn't care about casualties, there is much money behind.
Again, it shoud motivate the US public to support action against the Middle East, plus there were some other favourable side effects.

9/11 is three different events - woven into two hours. Al Qaeda did what they are capable to do, highjacking an airliner. The passengers or a missile ended the flight.
The US government tried to use their knowledge to run a second event at the Pentagon, to show how dangerous Al Qaeda is. "We are vunerable - we must act accordingly..."
And the "Third Al Qaeda" knew of the planned highjacking (maybe even of the US plot) and wanted to jump on too. They clapped a few flies with a single strike.

As I showed - there is no need to inform or involve hundreds or thousands of people. Most don't have to know they are part of the attack.
It's just the right people with the authority to order certain things.
And assuming Shanksville was Al Qaeda and WTC a "special foreign plot", the US government run only the Pentagon attack.
And that didn't run as expected, because the jetliner got off course and failed the setup - supporting your No.1.

This may be the cause for DoubYah and Mrs Jenny to speak only behind closed doors. They were probably fooled themselves with the WTC events. But there is no way to tell the truth to the public.
They try to keep it under control, with faked evidence (the FDR is a good example) and active discreditation of witnesses and "truthers". What else should they do?

And DoubYah was sitting in the school and heared of the first plane, assuming it was an accident. With the message of the second plane at the WTC, he was totally confused, because it should have been the Pentagon to be under attack, according to his knowledge. He didn't react, because he didn't understand what happened. He probably doubted himself, to have understood what was planned for that day.



@Penguin

The media took the church's task in reigning the people. As these were not able to read and write, they came together once a week and were told by the priests what god to follow, what's right and wrong, who's good who's evil, what to think about the new laws of the king or the taxes burden to bear. The view of the world was provided by the church. In cooperation with the aristocracy they made the leaders opinion the leading opinion.
Today that's what the media does. They explain to us our new god called Mammon, they tell us who's evil and who is to support, they motivate us to act or to bear, they provide the view of the world today. They ensure - in cooperation with the true regents - the leaders opinion becomes the leading opinion.
Nothing has changed. There was a short intermezzo of democratic engagement, of getting rid of the aristocracy - the big money. But today they are as mighty as ever. They just run a nice show for the people, to make them believe they have a say.
In other regions of the world, the church has overcome the aristocracy. They make the people five times a day pray as our media makes the people 'five times a day' deal with Mammon and it's religion. They gather the people once a week (Friday) to tell them their view of the world. The same principle, just other regents. They run a nice show for the people too, to make them believe they have a say. Funny how we totally are aware of this, thanks to our media, but completely deny the facts on our side. Due to the media, as they tell us, our system ensures the people have a say.

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by Mittelwaechter

(There was an explosion inside the Pentagon (09:32), minutes before the airliner "hit the building" (09:37:42)?

Evidence please? Who says that and where?

The cabin door of "AA77" wasn't opened during the whole flight?)
They wanted the public to support their intentions in Middle East and at home, so they used their own "Al Qaeda" to "hit the building".

The real Al Quaeda wanted to highjack an airliner, to free Omar Abdel-Rahman - the Blind Sheik.
The US knew it way before and decided to jump on that train.

This is just you once again trying to think of ways it "could have" happened. There is not the tiniest bit of evidence that any of this is real.

If the US didn't run the WTC attack, there is a "Third Al Qaeda" - a foreign supported group - that did it.
Some US persons of influence were supportive, they helped them. They didn't care about casualties, there is much money behind.
Again, it shoud motivate the US public to support action against the Middle East, plus there were some other favourable side effects.

So the crazy Muslims did part of it, and the US government joined in. How did they plant the explosives before the fact? It looks like you are reaching further and further in an attempt to justify your own beliefs, which puts the lie to your claim that you are not a Truther.

9/11 is three different events - woven into two hours. Al Qaeda did what they are capable to do, highjacking an airliner. The passengers or a missile ended the flight.
The US government tried to use their knowledge to run a second event at the Pentagon, to show how dangerous Al Qaeda is. "We are vunerable - we must act accordingly..."
And the "Third Al Qaeda" knew of the planned highjacking (maybe even of the US plot) and wanted to jump on too. They clapped a few flies with a single strike.

You seem to be making this up as you go along. You accuse others of mocking you, but you are looking sillier and sillier with each new claim you make.

As I showed - there is no need to inform or involve hundreds or thousands of people. Most don't have to know they are part of the attack.

And not one of these innocent dupes ever thought to find out if they might have been involved? Nothing happens in a vacuum. None of them thought to ask questions, but a bunch of unrelated layment did?

It's just the right people with the authority to order certain things.
And assuming Shanksville was Al Qaeda and WTC a "special foreign plot", the US government run only the Pentagon attack.
And that didn't run as expected, because the jetliner got off course and failed the setup - supporting your No.1.

So now the US government and Al Queda were in on it together?

DoubYah and Mrs Jenny

And you claim you're an unbiased questioner and have no agenda? Only people who hate Bush call him that.

(the FDR is a good example)

So you believe the Pearl Harbor conspiracy theories too?

[Mittelwaechter]

Barbara Honegger


Pilotsfor9/11truth claimed, the FDR shows, the cabin door wasn't opened. The officials refuse to comment on this.
http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/i...howtopic=18405

It is my theory, there happened three events on 9/11. You don't believe it, no problem on my side.

And you claim you're an unbiased questioner and have no agenda? Only people who hate Bush call him that.

Evidence? (You see it's easy to ask for evidence)

I constantly state I doubt the official claims on 9/11. I think Bush and Cheney are part of the plot. True, I don't like them and I want them to be judged for their deeds. I never was engaged in any truther site or actions. I did all the reseach for my current point of view within a few days, just surfing the internet and collecting claims and statements and facts and theories.

Pearl Harbor? http://tmh.floonet.net/articles/ph25_3.html

[Catfish]

Ah, Pearl Harbour.
Did anyone read the 'Cruise of the Lanikai' ?

Seems if the japanese had not attacked, there would have been an 'incident'. How impolite from them to strike where it hurt.

[Safe-Keeper]

Since Mittelwaechter is still ignoring my posts, I'm not spending more time in this thread. I suppose he has me on ignore for some reason or something. Pity. He might have learned something.

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by Mittelwaechter

Evidence? (You see it's easy to ask for evidence)

Nobody calls Bush "Dubya" except those who don't like him. Nobody ever uses insulting nicknames on people they like. It's not so easy to provide evidence, and you have shown none at all. You're claiming a conspiracy, you need to show it.

I constantly state I doubt the official claims on 9/11.

That's fine. The problem is you don't express doubts. You express conviction, and try to prove the conspiracy is real. So far you haven't.

I never liked Bush or Cheney either. You still need to prove the connections, and you haven't.

I never was engaged in any truther site or actions. I did all the reseach for my current point of view within a few days, just surfing the internet and collecting claims and statements and facts and theories.

And yet you spend all your time trying to prove the Truthers' claims. You certainly sound exactly like one.

Pearl Harbor? http://tmh.floonet.net/articles/ph25_3.html

Many people have tried to prove the same thing, and many others have provided alternate explanations trying to disprove it. Again you claim to be an honest questioner, but again you show yourself to be a conspiracy theorist of the first order.

[soopaman2]

Steve? You bothered to debate that mess?

The truthers claims were started by some loose change asshat, 21 years old upon writing, rich from parents, and lives no where near New York or DC.

Look up Opie and Anthony, Korey Rowe on you tube to see him owned on Radio before 2 countries.

To the point they began mock prank calling him.

Not before Anthony absolutly owns him.

Here it is.


They do cuss it is satellite radio.( the players are opie anthony and Jimmy, you hear jimmy alot at the beginning, anthony is the one doing the debating.)

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Safe-Keeper

I'm not spending more time in this thread.

Wise decision.

[Platapus]

What if someone made a thread in GT and no one posted to it?

[soopaman2]

Originally Posted by Platapus

What if someone made a thread in GT and no one posted to it?

The universe would implode.

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Platapus

What if someone made a thread in GT and no one posted to it?

[Aktungbby]

[QUOTE=Sailor Steve;2114307] Nobody ever uses insulting nicknames on people they like.


Not necessarily so Herr Schtikler: We like you and Herr Onkel!Is the Vicks and hot towel working?