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Old 09-13-13, 12:09 PM   #1
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So the Billfish book was worth a read? Saved a link about the Puffer's depth charge attack in October 43 in Makassar Straits.Hmmm wonder if it was perhaps same escorts delivering these damaging, prolonged, accurate attacks? Billfish was November 43 in Makassar Strait, Puffer was October 43Given same area and same time period, possible.
It' worth a read, but can be tedious and reviews of many technical errors.

Be interesting to know what TF attacked

Amazing the men of the Billfish kept silent about the CO's failure, not only in that, but the next one as well and Lucas agreed he would transfer out of subs to them, which he did. More amazing, it was kept silent for 60 years.

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It' worth a read, but can be tedious and reviews of many technical errors.

Be interesting to know what TF attacked

Amazing the men of the Billfish kept silent about the CO's failure, not only in that, but the next one as well and Lucas agreed he would transfer out of subs to them, which he did. More amazing, it was kept silent for 60 years.

http://www.uss-la-ca135.org/50b/1950lucas.html
I am sure they liked him, assuming he had been a competent captain until that point and having went through it together, understood how he could crack.Instead of humiliating him and probably costing an otherwise stable and competent officer his career, they did it off books, allowed him to move on to surface ships.

The one Captain I have read about that really irks me was Donald McGregor, first CO of the Seahorse.McGregor was relieved of command earlier in war due to lack of aggressiveness which resulted in dry patrols.Using his connections, he got command of Seahorse and when went to sea with Slade Cutter as exec, his results were just as poor.Also, he was vindictive as aside from lies in his patrol report, Cutter later found out he had badmouthed him in a fitness report, trying to Sabotage his career for no other reasons than personal .Years later, Cutter ran into McGregor and his wife at a football game, she was friendly and said hello, McGregor stayed away and didnt say a thing.Glad they weeded most of the jerks like this out early in the war.
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Old 09-15-13, 12:02 AM   #3
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I don't know, Rush basically called Lucas a coward. I guess Lucas did OK out of subs. I think men had a honor for their sub and each other. Rush seemed more concerned for that that Lucas.
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I don't know, Rush basically called Lucas a coward. I guess Lucas did OK out of subs. I think men had a honor for their sub and each other. Rush seemed more concerned for that that Lucas.


Ill have to read the book.I just figured since they kept quiet about it, they understood what they all went through and some men cracked.
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