Tell em Rand...

Bubblehead1980 · 09-11-13, 01:23 AM

This is one of the best responses to a Presidential address I can recall.

Spiced_Rum · 09-11-13, 02:27 AM

Based on that speech means that there is a politician I could vote for.

Bubblehead1980 · 09-11-13, 03:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Spiced_Rum

Based on that speech means that there is a politician I could vote for.

Absolutely. I hope he does not change and is who he appears to be.Assuming he is like his father, he is the real deal.Definitely more polished than the elder Paul but that is needed to across the certain voters.

Wolferz · 09-11-13, 11:15 AM

Rand Paul for president in 2016?

AVGWarhawk · 09-11-13, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolferz

Rand Paul for president in 2016?

I'll take Howdy Doody at this point.

mapuc · 09-11-13, 12:38 PM

And whoever that's going to be your president in 2016, you probably going to hate him too. Just because he/she isn't what you had been expecting.

Markus

Takeda Shingen · 09-11-13, 12:49 PM

I'm hoping for another D. I've gotten hooked on this stuff.

soopaman2 · 09-11-13, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

I'm hoping for another D. I've gotten hooked on this stuff.

We should call that the Obammy can.

Great when you open it, but turns flat nearly instantly.

Another 4 years of Democrats would make for great trollery.

I saved that pic, and will use it in other forums, thank you sir.

Armistead · 09-11-13, 01:24 PM

I would vote for Rand, hopefully he could beat Hillary. I think Rand could beat Hillary. Hillary should suffer from the Obama effect.

Ducimus · 09-11-13, 01:56 PM

Well, the hardcore right had their chance, and failed. The hardcore left, is proving to be an equally spectacular failure in their own right. Currently i can't tell the difference between the two except the left likes to play the violin more then the right. Now, It's my understanding that Libertarians are aligned with the republican's because they have no other place to go in the two-faced monstrosity that is our two party system. In any event, i think we need a president that leans a bit towards Libertarianism and leans heavily towards non-interventionism, and it's long overdue we had such a president.

Skybird · 09-11-13, 02:10 PM

The Fuhrer-cult about politicians and presidents shall come to an end. They are products of the system, and if elected, they have to deal with the same harsh reality like anyone else. With debts and interests like these, with dependencies on lobbies and on certain industry leaders like these, any US president has extremely limited freedom to act, if any. The louder the call for the right man at the top, the more certain it becomes that afterwards the disappointment again will be great.

The whole system - in the West, not just the US - is foul, and smells rotten. An occasional sober speech here and there does not change that. yes, in this 5 minutes-speech, Rand gives a sober impression, and I agree with what he says on the issue.

But that does not make me forgetting that he is just another politician. And by defintion that means he tries to tell people what he thinks increases his chances to get lifted by them, and will not tell them grim truths that would make sure he is not elected if speaking them out.

Democracy is voter bribery. People want to get bribed and betrayed. And sometimes the bribery lies not fin cial payments and tax gifts, but in giving a certain appearance: Kennedy on mind, or Reagan. So again: this younger Rand is just a politician, like his colleagues. Never forget that.

AVGWarhawk · 09-11-13, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Armistead

I would vote for Rand, hopefully he could beat Hillary. I think Rand could beat Hillary. Hillary should suffer from the Obama effect.

The media would portray Rand as a right wing lunatic with a touch of bigot.

soopaman2 · 09-11-13, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Ducimus

Well, the hardcore right had their chance, and failed. The hardcore left, is proving to be an equally spectacular failure in their own right. Currently i can't tell the difference between the two except the left likes to play the violin more then the right. Now, It's my understanding that Libertarians are aligned with the republican's because they have no other place to go in the two-faced monstrosity that is our two party system. In any event, i think we need a president that leans a bit towards Libertarianism and leans heavily towards non-interventionism, and it's long overdue we had such a president.

Something about this post made me agree, yet cringe at the same time.
Just how divisive we are, and how destructive it is.

My team will do this to your team, no one really listens to what they say, and anything they say is told to them by bosses.

A president, being told what to do by party bosses, or face ruination.

The problem is with politicians making this a lifelong occupation, rather than going back to their farms like Washington and Cincinattus did when their term was over.

Politician means public service, most of the a-holes think we should serve them, which is why we kicked Britain to the curb a few hundred years ago.

Ducimus · 09-11-13, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by soopaman2

Something about this post made me agree, yet cringe at the same time.
Just how divisive we are, and how destructive it is.

My team will do this to your team, no one really listens to what they say, and anything they say is told to them by bosses.

A president, being told what to do by party bosses, or face ruination.

The problem is with politicians making this a lifelong occupation, rather than going back to their farms like Washington and Cincinattus did when their term was over.

Politician means public service, most of the a-holes think we should serve them, which is why we kicked Britain to the curb a few hundred years ago.

The idea of congressional term limits would be a fantastic start. We really do need to do away with career politicians. Until such time, I don't think much will change.

soopaman2 · 09-11-13, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Ducimus

The idea of congressional term limits would be a fantastic start. We really do need to do away with career politicians. Until such time, I don't think much will change.

You are preachinig to the choir, right or left, you are screwed, as the same monetary backers fund both parties.

I hate to be so Nihilistic, but anything we do is meaningless, unless you net millions a year.

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Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,660 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	The Fuhrer-cult about politicians and presidents shall come to an end. They are products of the system, and if elected, they have to deal with the same harsh reality like anyone else. With debts and interests like these, with dependencies on lobbies and on certain industry leaders like these, any US president has extremely limited freedom to act, if any. The louder the call for the right man at the top, the more certain it becomes that afterwards the disappointment again will be great. The whole system - in the West, not just the US - is foul, and smells rotten. An occasional sober speech here and there does not change that. yes, in this 5 minutes-speech, Rand gives a sober impression, and I agree with what he says on the issue. But that does not make me forgetting that he is just another politician. And by defintion that means he tries to tell people what he thinks increases his chances to get lifted by them, and will not tell them grim truths that would make sure he is not elected if speaking them out. Democracy is voter bribery. People want to get bribed and betrayed. And sometimes the bribery lies not fin cial payments and tax gifts, but in giving a certain appearance: Kennedy on mind, or Reagan. So again: this younger Rand is just a politician, like his colleagues. Never forget that. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

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mapuc CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 20,541 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	And whoever that's going to be your president in 2016, you probably going to hate him too. Just because he/she isn't what you had been expecting. Markus

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Takeda Shingen Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2000 Posts: 8,643 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	I'm hoping for another D. I've gotten hooked on this stuff.

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Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	Well, the hardcore right had their chance, and failed. The hardcore left, is proving to be an equally spectacular failure in their own right. Currently i can't tell the difference between the two except the left likes to play the violin more then the right. Now, It's my understanding that Libertarians are aligned with the republican's because they have no other place to go in the two-faced monstrosity that is our two party system. In any event, i think we need a president that leans a bit towards Libertarianism and leans heavily towards non-interventionism, and it's long overdue we had such a president.