Syria conflict: 'Chemical attacks kill hundreds'

Skybird · 09-09-13, 11:36 AM

Several major newspapers here in Germany present screaming headlines since some minutes that Assad agreed to put Syrian chemical weapons under "international control." The foreign minister should have said that Damascus accepts and welcomes an according Russian proposal, which inlcuded the demand that later these weapons are to be destroyed.

Believable and trustworthy news - or only wishful interpretation of an earlier notice that the Syrian foreign minister welcomed an according Russian plan?

Certainly the best possible outcome of this mess, if true. Where there are no chemical weapons, they cannot fall into the hands of Hezbollah and Muslim terrorists.

eddie · 09-09-13, 11:44 AM

Here is a part of the Charlie Rose interview with Assad! Assads voice doesn't sound like What I thought it would!

http://news.msn.com/us/video?videoid...om=en-us_msnhp

Mr Quatro · 09-09-13, 11:57 AM

Yes breaking news ... skybyrd beat me to it, must be night time over there and daytime over here.

http://zeenews.india.com/news/world/...ol_875354.html

Russia truly is the master at chess playing and protecting their only naval base in the area.

I had proposed early on that we should consider a plan to purchase Syrian chemical weapons on a buy back plan.

One cruise missile represents 1.4 million dollars and we fired over 100 in the Libyan conflict alone.

plus what would keep Assad from denoting a chemical weapon in the same location that a US cruise missile strikes and say that the US missile caused the explosion killing hundreds more civilians calling in the UN inspection team to see the damage they caused?

Skybird · 09-09-13, 12:06 PM

It could also just be a brilliant counter by Syria to force the Americans to put a foot on the break and win time. I do not believe one second that Kerry has planned this.

MH · 09-09-13, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

It could also just be a brilliant counter by Syria to force the Americans to put a foot on the break and win time. I do not believe one second that Kerry has planned this.

Actully its Kerry that came up with the idea that if Syria destroys its chemical arsenal the military intervention may be avoided.
This looks like russian follow up.

Skybird · 09-09-13, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by MH

Actully its Kerry that came up with the idea that if Syria destroys its chemical arsenal the military intervention may be avoided.
This looks like russian follow up.

he meant it as a quick replying to a journalist's question, and it was said afterwards that it was not considered to be a serious option, that it was not expected.

Brilliant return by the Russians and Syrians, effectively trapping Kerry on his own careless words. Now it is even more difficult for Obama to convince congress.

I believe it when I see it. And I think I need to be very patient.

From a chessplayers POV, Obama has been pushed into the defensive again. He wanted to reclaim action, instead he now needs to react again. Press conference planned for today has been moved back in a haste.

MH · 09-09-13, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

he meant it as a quick replying to a journalist's question, and it was said afterwards that it was not considered to be a serious option, that it was not expected.
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Might be that it was not considered as serious agreeable option but i don't think it came from thin air in the hit of the moment.
If it came up it was most likely considered this way or the other.

09-09-13, 12:50 PM

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Certainly the best possible outcome of this mess, if true. Where there are no chemical weapons, they cannot fall into the hands of Hezbollah and Muslim terrorists.

If there is nothing wrong with chemical weapons there is nothing wrong with terrorists having them.
It makes no difference if they kill with chemicals or kill with machetes apparently, plus of course as there should be no rules of war they cannot even be terrorists in the first place.

Armistead · 09-09-13, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribesman

If there is nothing wrong with chemical weapons there is nothing wrong with terrorists having them.
It makes no difference if they kill with chemicals or kill with machetes apparently, plus of course as there should be no rules of war they cannot even be terrorists in the first place.

You're being silly, I think all agree chemical weapons are wrong, because they're a weapon of terror and weapons of mass random killing. In this case they're being used as a weapon of terror.

The fact is most nations that have chemical and nukes would use them if it came to their survival, including the USA.

09-09-13, 01:23 PM

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You're being silly, I think all agree chemical weapons are wrong, because they're a weapon of terror and weapons of mass random killing

Most people may agree, but the views on warfare are those of the person I quoted.
To go further his criticism of Japan is absolute bollox, according to his standards the Japanese never did anything wrong in regards to war crimes, and as for the mass rapes, well when it comes to rape women simply ask for it don't they.
So you are correct that the views are silly, but they are not my views, they are views expressed by skybird.

09-09-13, 11:36 AM	#1
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,784 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Several major newspapers here in Germany present screaming headlines since some minutes that Assad agreed to put Syrian chemical weapons under "international control." The foreign minister should have said that Damascus accepts and welcomes an according Russian proposal, which inlcuded the demand that later these weapons are to be destroyed. Believable and trustworthy news - or only wishful interpretation of an earlier notice that the Syrian foreign minister welcomed an according Russian plan? Certainly the best possible outcome of this mess, *if true.* Where there are no chemical weapons, they cannot fall into the hands of Hezbollah and Muslim terrorists. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

09-09-13, 12:06 PM	#4
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,784 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	It could also just be a brilliant counter by Syria to force the Americans to put a foot on the break and win time. I do not believe one second that Kerry has planned this. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

09-09-13, 11:44 AM	#2
eddie Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,023 Downloads: 99 Uploads: 0	Here is a part of the Charlie Rose interview with Assad! Assads voice doesn't sound like What I thought it would! http://news.msn.com/us/video?videoid...om=en-us_msnhp

09-09-13, 11:57 AM	#3
Mr Quatro Navy Seal Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 6,772 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Yes breaking news ... skybyrd beat me to it, must be night time over there and daytime over here. http://zeenews.india.com/news/world/...ol_875354.html Russia truly is the master at chess playing and protecting their only naval base in the area. I had proposed early on that we should consider a plan to purchase Syrian chemical weapons on a buy back plan. One cruise missile represents 1.4 million dollars and we fired over 100 in the Libyan conflict alone. plus what would keep Assad from denoting a chemical weapon in the same location that a US cruise missile strikes and say that the US missile caused the explosion killing hundreds more civilians calling in the UN inspection team to see the damage they caused?