Syria conflict: 'Chemical attacks kill hundreds'

[Tchocky]

I'm anxious that the use of chemical weapons be punished.
I'm not going myself because I've got an egg on and there's nobody to feed the cat .


If you want to get nationalistic about it, there are already over 100 Irish soldiers in Syria.

August - excellent point, I should have worded that better.

[Ducimus]

As someone who did serve their conscience overseas, i take issue with hawkish people who advocate putting other peoples lives at risk, and then sitting comfortably at home doing nothing.

[Tchocky]

Alright lads, you heard him.

This thread is now for veterans or currently enlisted only.

[Ducimus]

Nice sidestepping on your lack of backbone, oh eager beaver. Because your cat is infinately more important.

Originally Posted by Tchocky

I'm not going myself because I've got an egg on and there's nobody to feed the cat .
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[Tchocky]

Nice sidestepping on your lack of backbone, oh eager beaver. Because your cat is infinately more important.

Sidestepped what? I was facetious in response to a question that doesn't work. Your line of argument doesn't work. You argue for no intervention. Where do you get the right to say that, when you're not involved on the ground in Syria and therefore unable to make a judgement? See, it's broken.

As someone who did serve their conscience overseas, i take issue with hawkish people who advocate putting other peoples lives at risk, and then sitting comfortably at home doing nothing.

But advocating that the lives already at risk from chemical weapons should remain at risk from them is just fine?

Strewth.

GT, what would we do without it.

[eddie]

If we could have caught the unit in the act of using these chemical weapons and hit them right then, I wouldn't have much of a problem with that. But that is not the case at all, this whole thing could spin out of control by one simple mistake. Is Assad feels like he is cornered and doesn't see a way out, who will he strike at?

with the chemical arsenal Syria has, a lot of innocent people will die. I wish there was an easy answer to this situation but there isn't. If we strike Syria with missiles, its going to be like a man hitting a bee's nest with a stick, just to see what happens.

[August]

[Tchocky]

Good one!


[But-seriously] This won't be a surprise attack, and the Obama admin has been reluctant for years about getting involved in Syria, they even had to be dragged into Libya by France & the UK. I don't see escalation as massively likely from the US side if this goes thorough.

With the massive added caveat that we don't know how Assad will respond [/But-seriously]

[Stealhead]

It will be like Rolling Thunder during Vietnam they will bomb a bunch of empty buildings while the real target will be in obvious site but there will express orders not to attack that target.

They really did that in Vietnam they would tell pilots to bomb a location but avoid a hitting a certain area because high ranking enemy officers where supposedly having a meeting there and you uh like do not wont to kill your enemy chain of command.

what really bugs me is the current BS buzz word "calculus" ,"the calculus may change" "the calculus has changed" oh shut the hell up.

[vienna]

what really bugs me is the current BS buzz word "calculus" ,"the calculus may change" "the calculus has changed" oh shut the hell up.

What, you don't like the new "paradigm"?


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[Ducimus]

Originally Posted by Tchocky

Where do you get the right to say that, when you're not involved on the ground in Syria and therefore unable to make a judgement? See, it's broken.

That applies to you too buckwheat. Where do you get off wanting to send others into harms way on something.. ANYTHING.. that you think is important?

If your going to talk the talk, then walk the walk. To be fair, it isn't just you i'm picking on. Just people like you. People like you advocate for war, but when the O'dark 30 wake up call comes, and others are made to drag their bags through a freaking mobility processing line, and finally loaded up into the belly of a C141 with full kit, and those cargo doors slam shut, reality sinks in and let me tell you it is cold and hard. When that plane lifts off the ground, where are you? This is what people like you advocate for, but when the **** hits the fan, your nowhere to be found.

I also get a kick out of the people who put their chinese made "I support our troops" yellow ribbon bumper stickers on their cars to make themselves feel good. You support the troops? Really? HOW? Steve has issues with grammar. I have issues with keyboard warhawks.

[Tchocky]

I could turn that entire line of argument around regarding the people under threat of chemical attack in Syria. I did it in the last post to illustrate how this line of thinking doesn't work.

I mean come on. You're saying that Syrian civiian casualties are not your problem. Well, the forces that go into action in Syria if this goes off aren't my problem. But there's no point in posting that a) because it makes me look like an uncaring jackass when I'm not, and b) because it's completely irrelevant.

As for being a keyboard hawk or whatever - I'm not using anyone's sacrifices or potential pain to try and make a point on a web forum. That would be you.

[August]

Again what about collateral damage? The Syrians are almost certainly going to try and sucker us into bombing an orphanage or hospital or mosque, anything that generates images of dead civilians they can use to show what a Great Satan we are. It'll play well in a lot of places around the world.

Our representatives in DC should also remember that these images are going to be hung around the neck of every politician who votes for this thing come next election, starting in their own parties primary. Every Democrat will face primary challenges from the anti-war faction of their party and every Republican from the fiscal conservatives and the isolationists.

Maybe the time has finally come for a Libertarian to draw off enough support from both parties to have a real shot at winning?

[Ducimus]

Originally Posted by Tchocky

I could turn that entire line of argument around regarding the people under threat of chemical attack in Syria.

Again, Syria is not our ****ing problem.

I did it in the last post to illustrate how this line of thinking doesn't work.

As opposed to your eagerness to step into what can potentially turn into a major conflict?

I mean come on. You're saying that Syrian civiian casualties are not your problem.

No they aren't.

Well, the forces that go into action in Syria if this goes off aren't my problem.

No they aren't either, the difference is, this is what you wanted.

But there's no point in posting that a) because it makes me look like an uncaring jackass when I'm not,

You know what, i'll be plain and honest. In my time, I've been to enough ****holes to know that I don't like being told that I'm there to help, only to have the people im supposedly helping spit in my face. Their problems are their problems, they should not be ours. So yeah if that makes me an uncaring jackass so be it. I have no problem in saying, I DO NOT CARE WHAT GOES ON IN ANOTHER COUNTRY. As far as im concerned they can go to hell. Not my country then it is not my home, and hence not my problem. Of course, people like you are eager to make it everyones problem, aren't ya?

As for being a keyboard hawk or whatever -

Who's advocating for war again? Sure as **** ain't me. I'm done talking to you.

[eddie]

During a hearing on Syria, Sen. John McCain got caught playing poker on his Iphone,LOL Glad he's got his head in the game!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...c-c0b0d9d4fe0a