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Old 09-03-13, 07:51 AM   #646
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Sure...no problem lol
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OK MH, It was you who said Joker... no?

Speculation is speculation, If I wasn't concerned with the unfolding situation in the ME, I wouldn't be commenting here. I see no good reason to believe the official line as I stated before. You apparently do, and that's your privilege. What is your reason, if you would indulge me?
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Old 09-03-13, 08:09 AM   #647
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OK MH, It was you who said Joker... no?

Speculation is speculation, If I wasn't concerned with the unfolding situation in the ME, I wouldn't be commenting here. I see no good reason to believe the official line as I stated before. You apparently do, and that's your privilege. What is your reason, if you would indulge me?
If you don't believe the official lines how com you believe your own rubbish.
Or how come you invent one yourself .?
What you base it on?...long life experience?
Just asking?
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Old 09-03-13, 08:33 AM   #648
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If you don't believe the official lines how com you believe your own rubbish.
Or how come you invent one yourself .?
What you base it on?...long life experience?
Just asking?
I don't believe it. It is speculation - I believe it is a possibility. If you read my primary speculation;

Israeli/US missile radar avoidance technology tested [against Russian radar detection technology] and found wanting...

Is that not possible/plausible/fit nicely with official lines (albeit slightly twisted)?

Conceded that my false flag speculation seems increasingly unlikely, and I am honestly sorry to upset your sensibilities, but do you seriously believe your government never lies?

We have a saying here; "How do you know when a politician is lying? - the lips are moving."

Is it not interesting that as soon as the Russians announced the detection, both Israel and US denied any knowledge, and the US are still ambiguous 'we never launched it' while Israel now says Israeli/US test. If that isn't cause for speculation I don't know what is. Anyway, as you say, no problem.
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Old 09-03-13, 08:37 AM   #649
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I don't believe it. It is speculation - I believe it is a possibility. If you read my primary speculation;

Israeli/US missile radar avoidance technology tested [against Russian radar detection technology] and found wanting...

Is that not possible/plausible/fit nicely with official lines (albeit slightly twisted)?

Conceded that my false flag speculation seems increasingly unlikely, and I am honestly sorry to upset your sensibilities, but do you seriously believe your government never lies?

We have a saying here; "How do you know when a politician is lying? - the lips are moving."

Is it not interesting that as soon as the Russians announced the detection, both Israel and US denied any knowledge, and the US are still ambiguous 'we never launched it' while Israel now says Israeli/US test. If that isn't cause for speculation I don't know what is. Anyway, as you say, no problem.
You did not upset me or anything alike.
I'm just curious how certain kinds work lol.
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Old 09-03-13, 08:46 AM   #650
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You did not upset me or anything alike.
I'm just curious how certain kinds work lol.
Cool.

Nice to talk with you.
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Old 09-03-13, 08:53 AM   #651
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So...target practice eh?

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Israel's Defence Ministry said that it, along with a Pentagon team, had carried out a test-launch of a Sparrow missile. The Sparrow, which simulates the long-range missiles of Syria and Iran, is used for target practice by Israel's U.S.-backed ballistic shield Arrow
roughly in the direction of Syria

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Old 09-03-13, 09:18 AM   #652
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So...target practice eh?
Response test.
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Old 09-03-13, 11:30 AM   #653
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If you don't believe the official lines how com you believe your own rubbish. ...
Err, what ?
You mean if you do not believe the official lies how can you believe .. in your own ..
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Old 09-03-13, 11:52 AM   #654
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Inverse Godwins law and standard Godwins law aside. The following things are now known.

Obama has changed his langauge from hitting chemical weapons to 'degrading Assads military capabilities', which indicates that he will be looking to hit not only chemical weapons sites and delivery systems but also other key military systems such as command and control capabilities and airfields. This is likely in response to the knowledge that he will not be able to hit mobile launchers and assets so he's focusing on what he can hit with TLAMs and stand off air launched missiles, which is static targets. Senator McCain and another senator seems to have approved this, and it seems that Obama has won over key figures in the Senate.
This has increased the likelihood that the Senate vote, when it goes ahead (does anyone know when that will be?) will grant Obama permission to engage Syria.
The British, meanwhile, will very likely not be coming. Our opposition is trying to backtrack and ask the government under what circumstances it would consider a revote, but the government is not changing its position on the matter, and in a recent poll it was shown that third quarters of all those questioned supported the governments decision not to get involved.
As such, British military officials have been frozen out of the preparations for the strike, because we'd be a security risk otherwise.
The French are still eager to go, Hollande obviously thinks he can get a bit of that Sarkozy spirit, harvesting some successfull poll numbers from military action, however the French public opinion so far runs counter to his expectations.
Israel has launched a missile test in preparation for the possibility that Syria or Iran will retaliate at Israel when the US attacks, and the UN has announced that the situation in Syria has caused the worst humanitarian crisis since the 1994 Rwandan genocide, displacing over two million people.

On the other hand though, with the modern camera technology available and the internet to upload it on, there is a fascinating view of T-72 operations available:


As well as the dangers of operating in urban areas without infantry support whilst buttoned up:


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Old 09-03-13, 12:09 PM   #655
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Forget hitting Assad's junk. Just send the rebels a shipment of CARC and some MOPP gear.

Gas Gas GAS! MOPP four now baby.
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Old 09-03-13, 12:12 PM   #656
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One of these days I will invest in a Wolferz to English dictionary...
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Old 09-03-13, 12:13 PM   #657
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The British, meanwhile, will very likely not be coming. Our opposition is trying to backtrack and ask the government under what circumstances it would consider a revote, but the government is not changing its position on the matter, and in a recent poll it was shown that third quarters of all those questioned supported the governments decision not to get involved.
As such, British military officials have been frozen out of the preparations for the strike, because we'd be a security risk otherwise.
Yeah that vote went kinda like this:

DC: I want to go NOW!!
EM: Lets get the facts and maybe we WILL go but not yet.
DC: No! I want a decision NOW NOW NOW.
EM: But if you're forcing a decision now then it must be no.
DC: That's it then we're not EVER going ........NEVER EVER EVER.
EM: But I only said we should wait for the inspectors.
DC: WAAAAH! you made me look silly you [expletive deleted], we're never going now and it's ALL YOUR FAULT!!!


Don't you just love our plutocratic ruling class. Petty, self interested, downright amoral and that was on a good day...
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Why didn't I think of that before !?

You know all this ask the Congress in USA. Ask the Parliament in England is nothing more than a "game play"

Here's the reason
USA and it's allied didn't really know where some of Assad's military stuff where.

They then came up with this idea. At the same moment they placed a satellite over Syria to monitor their movement.
When the go ahead comes they now exactly were most of it are

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Old 09-03-13, 12:36 PM   #660
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@Oberon

My favourite bit is George Osbourne 'Don't worry DC, we can still stick it to them badgers '

though treasonous silver tongued snake oil mans first reply comes close...
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