SH4 on a Mac in a VM - Works!!!

skidman · 09-01-13, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Rockin Robbins

Actually it's kind of nice that Apple has partially yielded to the pressure to build PCs too. That you can run SH4 so well proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that Apple has abandoned any claim to uniqueness and just builds PCs with a few proprietary ROMs in them.

The "unique" hardware (PPC) was not as high-performance as Apples's marketing had sermonized for years. In fact a core duo Mac mini easily outperformed a dual PPC G5 workstation benchmark-wise and in everyday use.

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Originally Posted by Rockin Robbins

Actually you can run OSX on many PCs but, of course, Apple makes it illegal to do so with its insistence that OSX be run only on Apple hardware ...

Apple tries to enforce rules that suit them. In your country Apple's EULA applies to you as an end user, in my country it doesn't. In your country Apple in principle can take owners and makers of "Hackintoshs" to court and win, in my country they would never litigate because they cannot win. Don't blame Apple for trying to be as profitable as they are.

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Originally Posted by Rockin Robbins

Since I bit the bullet and made my own PC, I'm a nuts and bolts guy. I want to be able to swap in a new motherboard, microprocessor and memory to upgrade instead of buying the whole shooting match over again. That keeps me out of the laptop and Apple markets.

That is why I started building my own custom "Macs" a few years ago: Scalability, ease of maintenance, cost/efficiency ratio. In Europe there are companies selling PCs with Mac OS X preinstalled.

This is odd: The first Apple vs. PC dispute I have come across in months and it is taking place on Subsim and triggered by someone playing SH in a VM

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Rockin Robbins · 09-01-13, 08:08 PM

Well the thing is that Apple abandoned its own microprocessor and its own computer architecture in favor of that called "PC." Whether PC is a good name for it or Standard Industry Architecture or something else, a Mac and a PC are now essentially the same machine. They use the same processor, same memory, same motherboard architecture, same peripherals.

Most Mac users have abandoned the one button mouse in favor of multi-button mice as in the PC world and in fact now they can use the same mice without regard for the supposed difference in machines.

Apple seems to be focused on differentiating themselves by a bewildering array of connectors which are good for nothing but Apple products. When the connector for the iPad was copied, along with just about every other aspect of the machine, by Le Pan and a few others, then companies started making chargers with connectors to make them compatible not only with iPads, but other devices and cell phones, Apple said, "That's enough!"

Now there is a freakazoid connector for the new iPad that isn't good for anything but the iPad and they are prohibiting the world from building anything with a compatible plug. But Apple is cool and when they play Al Capone we all sigh and in unison intone "Ain't that SO cute!"

I not only will blame Apple for their tactics in making their company as profitable as it is but will never pay them a penny for any of their products, no matter how cool or cute. Behind that cool cuteness lies a company with the mind of a thug.

I contend that the game companies should publish their games only for Linux. After all, the gamer with a free operating system and free software has lots of extra money to buy games with that PC and Mac customers do not. Ubuntu and some other Linux distributions are ready for prime time. Steam is already there. I played Counterstrike Source in Ubuntu with Steam and the only difference I noticed from the PC version is that I had more FPS. Watch out Microsoft! Those footsteps you hear are real.

09-01-13, 08:13 PM

Pardon my butting in, but anytime I see Mac mentioned here I tune in.
"This is odd: The first Apple vs. PC dispute I have come across in months and it is taking place on Subsim and triggered by someone playing SH in a VM "

I've been playing Sh4 on my MacPro using Osx 10.7.n for over a year. Game runs better to my eye, but alas, I still get an occasional CTD. I run with Wineskin using a wrapper. Works as well, maybe even better than under Bootcamp, or the VM. I use the "4 gig patch", so I get SH4 to use 3 gig of ram. Try it, you'll like it.

Byee.

09-01-13, 08:08 PM	#2
Rockin Robbins Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: DeLand, FL Posts: 8,900 Downloads: 135 Uploads: 52	Well the thing is that Apple abandoned its own microprocessor and its own computer architecture in favor of that called "PC." Whether PC is a good name for it or Standard Industry Architecture or something else, a Mac and a PC are now essentially the same machine. They use the same processor, same memory, same motherboard architecture, same peripherals. Most Mac users have abandoned the one button mouse in favor of multi-button mice as in the PC world and in fact now they can use the same mice without regard for the supposed difference in machines. Apple seems to be focused on differentiating themselves by a bewildering array of connectors which are good for nothing but Apple products. When the connector for the iPad was copied, along with just about every other aspect of the machine, by Le Pan and a few others, then companies started making chargers with connectors to make them compatible not only with iPads, but other devices and cell phones, Apple said, "That's enough!" Now there is a freakazoid connector for the new iPad that isn't good for anything but the iPad and they are prohibiting the world from building anything with a compatible plug. But Apple is cool and when they play Al Capone we all sigh and in unison intone "Ain't that SO cute!" I not only will blame Apple for their tactics in making their company as profitable as it is but will never pay them a penny for any of their products, no matter how cool or cute. Behind that cool cuteness lies a company with the mind of a thug. I contend that the game companies should publish their games only for Linux. After all, the gamer with a free operating system and free software has lots of extra money to buy games with that PC and Mac customers do not. Ubuntu and some other Linux distributions are ready for prime time. Steam is already there. I played Counterstrike Source in Ubuntu with Steam and the only difference I noticed from the PC version is that I had more FPS. Watch out Microsoft! Those footsteps you hear are real. __________________ Sub Skipper's Bag of Tricks, Slightly Subnuclear Mk 14 & Cutie, Slightly Subnuclear Deck Gun, EZPlot 2.0, TMOPlot, TMOKeys, SH4CMS

09-01-13, 08:13 PM	#3
jldjs Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Pardon my butting in, but anytime I see Mac mentioned here I tune in. "This is odd: The first Apple vs. PC dispute I have come across in months and it is taking place on Subsim and triggered by someone playing SH in a VM " I've been playing Sh4 on my MacPro using Osx 10.7.n for over a year. Game runs better to my eye, but alas, I still get an occasional CTD. I run with Wineskin using a wrapper. Works as well, maybe even better than under Bootcamp, or the VM. I use the "4 gig patch", so I get SH4 to use 3 gig of ram. Try it, you'll like it. Byee.