Syria conflict: 'Chemical attacks kill hundreds'

DetCord · 08-30-13, 06:13 PM

This latest attack was defiantly NOT a chemical weapon. It has all of the telltale signs of a WP or white phosphorus munition, likely a artillery round with a VT bursting fuze. I wish this administration and the media would stop putting more fuel in Obama's war machine. It's getting old.

Example:

Skybird · 08-30-13, 06:22 PM

[QUOTE=DetCord;2107979]This latest attack was defiantly NOT a chemical weapon. It has all of the telltale signs of a WP or white phosphorus munition, likely a artillery round with a VT bursting fuze.

I wish this administration and the media would stop putting more fuel in Obama's war machine. It's getting old.

White phosphorus in an urban environment.

According to Tchocky so much more civilised than gassing. He obviously never has seen how it works on human flesh, and burns jnto the body with people going insane in pain. If you survive, the scars and mutilations are terrible.

In the Baltic, on Ruegen and on some German beaches, people get injured until today from wp that get awashed on the shore and looks like Bernstein. 1.5 million tonnes of wwii ammo are lying close to the beaches, in the sea. The moment the stuff gets out of the water, it starts burning again, injuring collectors and tourists.

Almost like mines.

Oberon · 08-30-13, 06:25 PM

Not just Germany, UK too, we get the odd phos bomb on the beach, usually you notice when the smoke starts coming out from the stones.

eddie · 08-30-13, 06:28 PM

The BBC reports a bomb dropped on a school yard today. Seems it was WP! Kids with nasty burns, and shaking like a leaf! Really sad.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-23892594

vienna · 08-30-13, 06:35 PM

I am getting the impression some people think of chemical weapons as being only gases. Actually, a chemical weapon is any weapon that uses chemicals rather than explosives as its primary means of "doing damage". Most are gases, but some make use of chemical properties, like phosphorus, to achieve the goal of inflicting caualties or damage...

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Tchocky · 08-31-13, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

White phosphorus in an urban environment.

According to Tchocky so much more civilised than gassing. He obviously never has seen how it works on human flesh, and burns jnto the body with people going insane in pain. If you survive, the scars and mutilations are terrible.

At least respond to what I actually posted instead of playing stupid and offensive games with what I did not post.

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Originally Posted by Platapus

Facepalm!

No end dates for re-authorization, no limits on scope, loop-holes you can fly a 747 through..... What could possibly go wrong?

I'd like to see an end-date as well, but to me the wording seems fairly tightly condensed to the chemical weapons aspect. As is every pronouncement coming out of Washington - no regime change, only a response to the gassing.

mapuc · 08-31-13, 06:43 PM

I have written some comments in this thread. Mostly of what I believe and some from what I have read.

Now I rest and wait...until they have made this strike, then I again, can, from the result, give my point/argument

We all have our opinion on this issue and maybe some of them is head on.

I hope that USA isn't planing on getting involved in this Civil war, not more than just this "Narrow operation" against Assad.

Markus

Feuer Frei! · 08-30-13, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DetCord

This latest attack was defiantly NOT a chemical weapon.

O'really?

Source?

WHICH attack are you referring to? The school yard one?
If so, then yes, it wasn't. It seems.

Pictures aren't evidence.

And considering the Weapons Inspectors haven't even delivered their preliminary report to the council yet, unless of course you are privy to the findings already.

And fueling the Obama war machine?

More like fueling Skybird.

darkone999 · 08-30-13, 09:57 PM

Let the EU deal with it.Even better the Arab League of nations.As an American I get tired of our nation being the goat and packing the burden of the worlds issues all the time.On another thought I think other nations get sick of us messing around in the affairs of other countries all the time."if you can not understand our silence then you could never understand our words"..Hope we just stay out of it.....

Peace

DetCord · 08-31-13, 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Feuer Frei!

O'really?

Source?

WHICH attack are you referring to? The school yard one?
If so, then yes, it wasn't. It seems.

Pictures aren't evidence.

And considering the Weapons Inspectors haven't even delivered their preliminary report to the council yet, unless of course you are privy to the findings already.

And fueling the Obama war machine?

More like fueling Skybird.

First hand experience as a combat veteran, having seen said munition utilized, does that count?

Twat.

Feuer Frei! · 08-31-13, 03:19 AM

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Originally Posted by DetCord

First hand experience as a combat veteran, having seen said munition utilized, does that count?

Does it count?
When you're posting a post stating that you are undeniably certain and without a doubt that something wasn't something that hasn't even been proven to be so by a body and providing no link to anything when making that opinion then no, it doesn't count.
You've had first-hand experience in combat. Fair enough, i respect that.
But the post i made previously in response to your post claiming undeniably something that hasn't been proven so is where i was coming from.
Take that for what its worth.

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Twat.

Nice attitude, Pal.
Can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen.

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UN Team is out, the Clock starts ticking:

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UN inspectors investigating the alleged use of chemical weapons in Syria have left Damascus.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-23908808

31 August 2013 Last updated at 06:03

08-31-13, 03:42 AM

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We'll see, if the international media will cover this.

will the international media cover an unverified claim that is published in the international media????????

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Does it count?

I think it does, combat experience gives a person the ability to make unquestionably certain analytical judgements based on an unverified photo taken at an unverified location at an unverified time.
Its a sort of special magic.

Feuer Frei! · 08-31-13, 04:09 AM

The video linked in the Blogger's piece does nothing for his/her credibility.
Nor anyone who links to it.

Not least of all since the alleged chemical attack a week ago occurred during the night.
Eye witness accounts confirm this to be so.

Gotta love 3rd part bloggers who also give video game reviews

Packlife · 08-31-13, 04:18 AM

So the weapons inspectors pulled out early. Well it's only a matter of time now, wouldn't be surprised if the strikes happen in a few hours. And big surprise not long after the inspectors left shelling could be heard, they sure didn't wait to long to start that up again.

Ducimus · 08-31-13, 05:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Feuer Frei!

Does it count?
When you're posting a post stating that you are undeniably certain and without a doubt that something wasn't something that hasn't even been proven to be so by a body and providing no link to anything when making that opinion then no, it doesn't count.

Hate to tell you, but your sound like one of those "internet experts".

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You've had first-hand experience in combat. Fair enough, i respect that.

No, I don't think you do.

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But the post i made previously in response to your post claiming undeniably something that hasn't been proven so is where i was coming from.
Take that for what its worth.

You do realize that a word like "but" is a retraction of your previous statement right? So, no you really don't respect first hand experience. I will grant that there are a lot of "internet experts" and "Keyboard commando's" that pretend to be something their not. However, with Detcord im inclined to believe he's not some poser.

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Nice attitude, Pal.
Can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen.

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Dude, If i had served in recent years and been there, done that, bought the T shirt, i'd have said the same thing. Because when you pair that personal experience to what your saying on a message board and having most likely never seen anything at all first hand, well.... yeah.

Nothing personal Feuer Frei, I'm just saying when you go barking up someones tree who may have actual experience, you may want to think about it first. Because if your wrong, you make yourself look really bad.

08-30-13, 06:22 PM	#2
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,680 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	[QUOTE=DetCord;2107979]This latest attack was defiantly NOT a chemical weapon. It has all of the telltale signs of a WP or white phosphorus munition, likely a artillery round with a VT bursting fuze. I wish this administration and the media would stop putting more fuel in Obama's war machine. It's getting old. White phosphorus in an urban environment. According to Tchocky so much more civilised than gassing. He obviously never has seen how it works on human flesh, and burns jnto the body with people going insane in pain. If you survive, the scars and mutilations are terrible. In the Baltic, on Ruegen and on some German beaches, people get injured until today from wp that get awashed on the shore and looks like Bernstein. 1.5 million tonnes of wwii ammo are lying close to the beaches, in the sea. The moment the stuff gets out of the water, it starts burning again, injuring collectors and tourists. Almost like mines. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

08-30-13, 06:35 PM	#5
vienna Navy Seal Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Anywhere but the here & now... Posts: 7,718 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	I am getting the impression some people think of chemical weapons as being only gases. Actually, a chemical weapon is any weapon that uses chemicals rather than explosives as its primary means of "doing damage". Most are gases, but some make use of chemical properties, like phosphorus, to achieve the goal of inflicting caualties or damage... <O> __________________ __________________________________________________ __

08-30-13, 09:57 PM	#9
darkone999 Sailor man Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Indiana Posts: 50 Downloads: 126 Uploads: 0	dont play Let the EU deal with it.Even better the Arab League of nations.As an American I get tired of our nation being the goat and packing the burden of the worlds issues all the time.On another thought I think other nations get sick of us messing around in the affairs of other countries all the time."if you can not understand our silence then you could never understand our words"..Hope we just stay out of it..... Peace

08-31-13, 04:09 AM	#13
Feuer Frei! Navy Seal Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Valhalla Posts: 5,295 Downloads: 141 Uploads: 17	The video linked in the Blogger's piece does nothing for his/her credibility. Nor anyone who links to it. Not least of all since the alleged chemical attack a week ago occurred during the night. Eye witness accounts confirm this to be so. Gotta love 3rd part bloggers who also give video game reviews __________________ "History is the lies that the victors agree on"- Napoleon LINK TO MY SH 3 MODS

08-30-13, 06:13 PM	#1
DetCord Watch Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Fort Riley Posts: 18 Downloads: 16 Uploads: 0	This latest attack was defiantly NOT a chemical weapon. It has all of the telltale signs of a WP or white phosphorus munition, likely a artillery round with a VT bursting fuze. I wish this administration and the media would stop putting more fuel in Obama's war machine. It's getting old. Example:

08-30-13, 06:25 PM	#3
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	Not just Germany, UK too, we get the odd phos bomb on the beach, usually you notice when the smoke starts coming out from the stones.

08-30-13, 06:28 PM	#4
eddie Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,023 Downloads: 99 Uploads: 0	The BBC reports a bomb dropped on a school yard today. Seems it was WP! Kids with nasty burns, and shaking like a leaf! Really sad. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-23892594

08-31-13, 06:43 PM	#7
mapuc CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 20,543 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	I have written some comments in this thread. Mostly of what I believe and some from what I have read. Now I rest and wait...until they have made this strike, then I again, can, from the result, give my point/argument We all have our opinion on this issue and maybe some of them is head on. I hope that USA isn't planing on getting involved in this Civil war, not more than just this "Narrow operation" against Assad. Markus

08-31-13, 04:18 AM	#14
Packlife Gunner Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 91 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	So the weapons inspectors pulled out early. Well it's only a matter of time now, wouldn't be surprised if the strikes happen in a few hours. And big surprise not long after the inspectors left shelling could be heard, they sure didn't wait to long to start that up again.