WW2 Sub movies and books

Scurvy Dawg · 08-30-13, 11:14 AM

Having read a few books on WW2 submarine warfare I was wondering what other books and films to watch on the subject- either fictional or documentary.
Books I have read:- The Bravest Man: Richard O'Kane and the Amazing Submarine Adventures of the USS Tang, The Cruel Sea, The Good Shepherd and Iron Coffins. The last one being a personal account by Herbert Werner (RIP) and is one of the best books I have read.
Movies I have seen are Das Boot, Enemy Below, Cruel Sea, Operation Petticoat and Run Silent Run Deep. (Although the last 2 were quite a few years ago).

Can anyone recommend any others?

Cheers!

c13Garrison · 08-30-13, 11:40 AM

War Beneath the Sea, by Peter Padfield. It was recommended by someone here so I bought it and I love it. A scholarly overview of WWII submarine operations.

Rockin Robbins · 08-30-13, 12:56 PM

I have to recommend the Run Silent Run Deep trilogy. Although this is fiction it was written by Edward Beach, a WWI sub skipper and eventual skipper of the Triton nuclear boat which circumnavigated the world submerged the entire way.

The thing about Run Silent Run Deep is that it is goes deeply into submarine tactics. Where other non-fiction and scholarly works tell you what happened, RSRD tells you HOW it happened and what to think about it. It teaches you to do the mental calculations in your head, how to set up a proper attack, discussions about fine points of how to fight a submarine. It is time well-spent and you will be sorry to come to the end of the third book.

Then there's my submarine Bible, Eugene Fluckey's Thunder Below! Just about EVERYTHING about the way I fight a sub in SH4 is based on his methods. He does a fabulous job of explaining how he broke the mold, why, and what results to expect. His name rhymes with "ducky," by the way and you can separate those who knew him from those who don't by how they (mis)pronounce Fluckey's name. His nickname "Lucky Fluckey" should be a clue however.

I have a bunch of great books at home that you could spend altogether too much time locating and reading. I'll post some of them later today.

Rammstein0991 · 09-16-13, 12:56 PM

Operation pacific (1951) was an entertaining sub movie, it was one of John Wayne's

MarkCt · 09-16-13, 01:51 PM

I'm reading Submarine now which is a collection of stories of most of the popular boats like Tang, Wahoo and Trigger.

I just finished Clear the Bridge which is a real good book about the USS Tang.
The Bavest Man was one of the first books I read which is the story of Richard O Kane.
Another good one is Luck of the Draw. Also Crash Dive.

Also check out Silent Running written by James Calvert.

U 571 was also a good movie.

Bubblehead1980 · 09-16-13, 05:06 PM

Wahoo! and Clear The Bridge! both Richard O Kane are excellent.Thunder Below by Eugene Fluckey is probably the best written, most gripping in my opinion.

I really enjoyed The Luck of The Draw by Captain Ken Ruiz.Ruiz was a young Ensign aboard a heavy cruiser at Savo Island, his ship was shot out from under him, he was in the water for many hours.Rescued next day, while at Pearl Harbor Admiral Nimitz himself asked for submarine volunteers, Ruiz was one, he was sent to USS Pollack, old Porpoise class boat and stayed there for two years.The Pollack was old and outdated, even in late 1942 and nearly killed them a few times.Ruiz's account of fighting in the bucket is quite interesting.

Silent Running by James F. Calvert is excellent as is Take Her Down! Admiral Galatin.Take Her Down is about the USS Halibut and her near destruction in Nov 1944 when Japanese used MAD to locate her.

Pigboat 39 by Bobette Gugliotta(wife of an S boat officer) , In the Course of Duty by Don Keith(about USS Batfish, sinking 3 submarines in 1945 in 3 days) and Maru Killer, which is about the USS Seahorse.

There are others I have yet to read but these are all excellent.Fun to get ideas from different books and apply them to the sim sometimes.

08-30-13, 11:14 AM	#1
Scurvy Dawg Swabbie Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 12 Downloads: 16 Uploads: 0	WW2 Sub movies and books Having read a few books on WW2 submarine warfare I was wondering what other books and films to watch on the subject- either fictional or documentary. Books I have read:- The Bravest Man: Richard O'Kane and the Amazing Submarine Adventures of the USS Tang, The Cruel Sea, The Good Shepherd and Iron Coffins. The last one being a personal account by Herbert Werner (RIP) and is one of the best books I have read. Movies I have seen are Das Boot, Enemy Below, Cruel Sea, Operation Petticoat and Run Silent Run Deep. (Although the last 2 were quite a few years ago). Can anyone recommend any others? Cheers!

08-30-13, 12:56 PM	#3
Rockin Robbins Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: DeLand, FL Posts: 8,900 Downloads: 135 Uploads: 52	I have to recommend the Run Silent Run Deep trilogy. Although this is fiction it was written by Edward Beach, a WWI sub skipper and eventual skipper of the Triton nuclear boat which circumnavigated the world submerged the entire way. The thing about Run Silent Run Deep is that it is goes deeply into submarine tactics. Where other non-fiction and scholarly works tell you what happened, RSRD tells you HOW it happened and what to think about it. It teaches you to do the mental calculations in your head, how to set up a proper attack, discussions about fine points of how to fight a submarine. It is time well-spent and you will be sorry to come to the end of the third book. Then there's my submarine Bible, Eugene Fluckey's Thunder Below! Just about EVERYTHING about the way I fight a sub in SH4 is based on his methods. He does a fabulous job of explaining how he broke the mold, why, and what results to expect. His name rhymes with "ducky," by the way and you can separate those who knew him from those who don't by how they (mis)pronounce Fluckey's name. His nickname "Lucky Fluckey" should be a clue however. I have a bunch of great books at home that you could spend altogether too much time locating and reading. I'll post some of them later today. __________________ Sub Skipper's Bag of Tricks, Slightly Subnuclear Mk 14 & Cutie, Slightly Subnuclear Deck Gun, EZPlot 2.0, TMOPlot, TMOKeys, SH4CMS

08-30-13, 11:40 AM	#2
c13Garrison Ensign Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Chicago-ish, USA Posts: 223 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	War Beneath the Sea, by Peter Padfield. It was recommended by someone here so I bought it and I love it. A scholarly overview of WWII submarine operations.

09-16-13, 12:56 PM	#4
Rammstein0991 Engineer Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: NC USA Posts: 219 Downloads: 164 Uploads: 0	Operation pacific (1951) was an entertaining sub movie, it was one of John Wayne's

09-16-13, 01:51 PM	#5
MarkCt Electrician's Mate Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Connecticut Posts: 133 Downloads: 45 Uploads: 0	I'm reading Submarine now which is a collection of stories of most of the popular boats like Tang, Wahoo and Trigger. I just finished Clear the Bridge which is a real good book about the USS Tang. The Bavest Man was one of the first books I read which is the story of Richard O Kane. Another good one is Luck of the Draw. Also Crash Dive. Also check out Silent Running written by James Calvert. U 571 was also a good movie.

09-16-13, 05:06 PM	#6
Bubblehead1980 Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Florida USA Posts: 7,105 Downloads: 605 Uploads: 44	Wahoo! and Clear The Bridge! both Richard O Kane are excellent.Thunder Below by Eugene Fluckey is probably the best written, most gripping in my opinion. I really enjoyed The Luck of The Draw by Captain Ken Ruiz.Ruiz was a young Ensign aboard a heavy cruiser at Savo Island, his ship was shot out from under him, he was in the water for many hours.Rescued next day, while at Pearl Harbor Admiral Nimitz himself asked for submarine volunteers, Ruiz was one, he was sent to USS Pollack, old Porpoise class boat and stayed there for two years.The Pollack was old and outdated, even in late 1942 and nearly killed them a few times.Ruiz's account of fighting in the bucket is quite interesting. Silent Running by James F. Calvert is excellent as is Take Her Down! Admiral Galatin.Take Her Down is about the USS Halibut and her near destruction in Nov 1944 when Japanese used MAD to locate her. Pigboat 39 by Bobette Gugliotta(wife of an S boat officer) , In the Course of Duty by Don Keith(about USS Batfish, sinking 3 submarines in 1945 in 3 days) and Maru Killer, which is about the USS Seahorse. There are others I have yet to read but these are all excellent.Fun to get ideas from different books and apply them to the sim sometimes.