Syria conflict: 'Chemical attacks kill hundreds'

[Jimbuna]

Politicians.....don't you just love em?

[Ducimus]

Well, here's something that can be taken as good news:

Foxnews headline:
Obama Takes Syria Case to Congress

President Obama and his top advisers were taking their case for intervention in Syria to Congress Thursday afternoon, holding a series of briefings as lawmakers increasingly voiced skepticism toward any military strike.

The president on Thursday afternoon personally briefed House Speaker John Boehner, who a day earlier wrote to the president urging him to provide a "clear, unambiguous explanation" on how military action would serve U.S. interests.

Boehner spokesman Brendan Buck reiterated those questions after the call. "Only the president can answer these questions, and it is clear that further dialogue and consultation with Congress, as well as communication with the American public, will be needed," he said.

Also, since it's obviously as important as potentially being in another war, here's the CNN headline:
Feds loosen up on weed

[Mr Quatro]

Timeline: = 6 days till G20 meeting in Saint Petersburg, Russia September 5th-6th

Timeline: = 2 days left till UN inspection team departs Syria with results to follow first week of September

Timeline: = President Obama speaking of "we just want to send a clear message of our disapproval" with a "shot across the bow so to speak"

Timeline: = President Obama talking to certain members of congress about what to do, is right now as we speak

even Rumsfeld has learned from his mistakes:

http://www.newser.com/story/173393/rumsfeld-obama-is-rushing-to-war.html?utm_source=part&utm_medium=united&utm_cam paign=rss_top

[vienna]

Actually, by going to Congress, Obama is making a shrewd move. If Congress approves an attack, and the attack goes sideways, Obama won't bear the full brunt of the "I told you so" that will follow. He also takes out of the hands of the GOP a possible waepon/criticism the GOP could use in the 2014 mid-term elections. The GOP leadership demands for inclusion will make them complicit in any attack(s) and they will have a hard time pointing fingers at the Dems and Obama when their fingers are pointing back at themselves...


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[andritsos]

''
British MPs have voted to reject possible military action against the Assad regime in Syria to deter the use of chemical weapons.
A government motion was defeated 285 to 272, a majority of 13 votes.
Prime Minster David Cameron said it was clear Parliament does not want action and "the government will act accordingly" '' ....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-23892783

[Packlife]

Some think that the UN report is going to say whether or not Assad's ppl are responsible for the attacks, but those ppl would be wrong Gen Ban Ki Moon said their objective in Syria is to determine whether or not chemical weapons were used but not to say who used them, would probably be kinda hard to do by just digging in the dirt. But really that report is just a formality the UN going through the motions everybody agrees that the gas attacks occurred, I believe even Russia an China have agreed they happened. But that report will be where the UN's part end's sure they might have a security council vote but it's pretty much a forgone conclusion that Russia an China will vote no/use their veto's.That's actually a big gripe I have w/ the UN that 1 or 2 countries can defeat the majority.
I see the British PM lost the vote today, he'll be back he didn't lose by much plus I see that Iraq is the biggest reason why some don't want to hit Syria. It's one thing to learn from past mistakes an do what you can not to repeat them, but its a complete other to let those past mistakes cripple you to the point you become useless.

Also, since it's obviously as important as potentially being in another war, here's the CNN headline:
Feds loosen up on weed

That's strange, as the front page on the site has more than 2 dozen articles on Syria, perhaps in your objectivity you missed them all.
Perhaps it just the wrong edition I looked at as that's the international edition.
So US edition. Its.....Syria
Did you look in the wrong section perhaps? world yep Syria, politics Syria again, opinion Syria, technology, Syria, photography Syria, business syria, trends Syria.

Damn that sneaky CNN they really keep Syria out of the news don't they

[Ducimus]

Originally Posted by andritsos

''
British MPs have voted to reject possible military action against the Assad regime in Syria to deter the use of chemical weapons.
A government motion was defeated 285 to 272, a majority of 13 votes.
Prime Minster David Cameron said it was clear Parliament does not want action and "the government will act accordingly" '' ....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-23892783

I can only hope our Congress puts a similar damper on BO.

[Oberon]

Some faith in the House of Commons has been restored...but only some...

[August]

“The president does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation”


-Barack Obama 2007

[nikimcbee]

Originally Posted by Ducimus

In the spirit of gallows humor, anyone want to start taking bets on when our government does something incredibly stupid with a cruise missile? Pulling a date out of my ass, i'll guess sometime tomorrow, but definitely before the labor day weekend. Beer, BBQ, and stupidity on TV all in one go.

So what's the bet?

[nikimcbee]

So when do we organize a "no blood for Syrian oil" rally? Should I start printing signs now?

[Packlife]

Now I've heard it all. Congresswoman Barbara Lee (D) California just said in a tv interview that, she believes that there is no military solution to the problem in Syria an that it would end up in not being able to start some kind of talks an negotiations (I'm assuming she means talks/negotiations between Assad an the Rebels). Now I'm a democrat but I DO not support what she's says, I'd like to know where she bought what she's smoking cuz I want some. First Assad is not going to sit down an negotiate w/ the rebels this guy is a half crazy dictator, in his mind it's his way w/ him in power or be damned an death to all who appose him. He's already proven that fully w/ how fast he escalated towards what started out as protesters now rebels. But the congresswoman says that using chemical weapons are bad an punishment is needed, well if a military strike holds no value in her eyes then what does she suggest??? Maybe putting Assad in the time out corner an not giving him any milk an cookies during snack time, or maybe she wants the President to go on tv an say "Mr.Assad your a bad dictator an you should be ashamed of yourself", it must be nice to be delusional.

[Feld Grau]

Originally Posted by Packlife

Now I've heard it all. Congresswoman Barbara Lee (D) California just said in a tv interview that, she believes that there is no military solution to the problem in Syria an that it would end up in not being able to start some kind of talks an negotiations (I'm assuming she means talks/negotiations between Assad an the Rebels). Now I'm a democrat but I DO not support what she's says, I'd like to know where she bought what she's smoking cuz I want some. First Assad is not going to sit down an negotiate w/ the rebels this guy is a half crazy dictator, in his mind it's his way w/ him in power or be damned an death to all who appose him. He's already proven that fully w/ how fast he escalated towards what started out as protesters now rebels. But the congresswoman says that using chemical weapons are bad an punishment is needed, well if a military strike holds no value in her eyes then what does she suggest??? Maybe putting Assad in the time out corner an not giving him any milk an cookies during snack time, or maybe she wants the President to go on tv an say "Mr.Assad your a bad dictator an you should be ashamed of yourself", it must be nice to be delusional.

What is it then you propose oh Wise Citizen?

[Alex]

Originally Posted by Dowly

If you like, dude.
Please can you remind us of who's taking care of a part of the wounded members of the FSA, at least ?

Originally Posted by Tribesman

That's the beauty of it Alex, neo-Nazis are always fun to show as ridiculous, and so easy too.

I know not all people living in the united states of America can be considered familiar with Spanish language, yet quite a bit definitely are. For those who are, just watch . For those who're not, just read that little text below.


« And let's watch out when it comes to the beginning of a great war in Syria, would be the beginning of the end of the Zionist domination on Palestinian people. Watch out !
Because the Arab People are going to defend themselves.
What did they do against Palestine something like 60 years ago ? A UN resolution got the Palestinians thrown out of THEIR soil, and there's no way to find any solution for Palestinian people to live on their soil. And recently, like 10 years ago, what did they do when it comes to Iraq and Iraqi People ? They created a lie, how many times did they do that ? There was like weapons of mass destruction, and the whole world just swallowed that. Because every channel news : CNN, NBC, ABC, BBC, etc. just bombed the whole world with their psychological war and made all people believe something like there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, and so justified themselves for causing the death of 1 million people.
1 million ! Who's paying for dead Arab people in Iraq ?
They did the same in Libya. They started saying that Khadafi bombed the Green Place, and the Telesur journalist came there 24 hours later, showing that it was a lie. But the UN resolution was approved already. And they devastated Libya through 20.000 aerial raids, ravaging the country. And the oil wells in Libya that you can find in the Eastern part of the country, where the insurrection started, Benghazi... Who's gained control on that ? Transnationals from North-America, and certain are Europeans.

And now it goes the same way in Syria. Syria is withstanding pressure and will resist some more.
From the place I am, I'm launching an appeal, from the Tachira land, from the Venezuelan Andes, to Arab people who're living on our Venezuelan Land, to Syrian people who're living on our soil, to Palestinian people who're living on our soil, to Lebanese people who're living on our soil, and to Arab people in general, when I'm talking about our soil, I'm talking about Venezuela, South America, Central America, Carribean, and to our Arab brothers throughout the world, to Islamic people : Let's do whatever is necessary to prevent a military attack on Syria, war against Syria, destruction of Syria, the dividing up of Syria, nothing justifies a military attack against Syria ! »

I'd like it if someone at the top where I live could say such a thing.



@ Tribesman : Shhhh, take a deep breath dude... We're all evil dumb neo-nazi antisemites, I tell you !