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Old 08-29-13, 08:15 AM   #286
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I guess you all have heard about the Russian sending two warship to the Mediterranean(or I have missed that when reading the posting after I turned of my computer)

My guess is that they are there to put a pressure on Obama to not do what he has been talking about

Here's a scenario(very unlikely)

Obama gives the green light(that's very much likely) and the American warship and their two Subs send several cruise missile(Tomahawk) toward their targets

They( The American) follow these missile on Radar. Before they reach land, they can see several missile being fired from this Russian missile ship(higly unlikely) they can see that those missile is on their way to intercept......

I have only those two scenarios

1- Just to be there as pointed above
2- Be there to protect Syria from those missiles

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Old 08-29-13, 08:23 AM   #287
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Confirmed now, weapons inspectors to pull out Saturday.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-23878942
29 August 2013 Last updated at 09:44 GMT

Saturday could well be Rock'n Roll time then.


As for Russia moving some ships there, Russia is unlikely to be drawn into direct military confrontation with the West.
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Old 08-29-13, 08:30 AM   #288
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Old 08-29-13, 08:35 AM   #289
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In a letter to the British Parliament Syria has invited British MP's to visit Syria at the weekend, clearly a move designed to confuse the American targeting systems.
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Old 08-29-13, 09:01 AM   #290
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If I remember right, the questioning under oath was related to a sexual harassment case.
Yes it was. And yes, when questioned about the Paula Jones proposition Clinton said under oath that he had not had "relations" with Monica Lewinski. The Republicans decided that this was good enough to impeach the President, and got the votes to get the trial started. The fact remains that they were looking for any excuse to play politics and this was the best they could find.

Again I cite Oliver North as an example of the Democrats playing the same game. It is a game they play, and nothing more. If the president should be removed for that sort of thing then we have to start with Jefferson and move to Buchanan, Cleveland, Eisenhower and Kennedy.
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Old 08-29-13, 09:15 AM   #291
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right now you can watch cameron debating live on bbcnews about the intervention....

i rarely watch such things, but i have the impression he doesnt give space for others to talk and rushing and rushing
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Old 08-29-13, 09:19 AM   #292
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I guess you all have heard about the Russian sending two warship to the Mediterranean(or I have missed that when reading the posting after I turned of my computer)

My guess is that they are there to put a pressure on Obama to not do what he has been talking about
A russian source said, that the ships are there due to normal fleet rotation.
It was quoted on BBC when I read it at work, but now that part was cut out of the main article
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Old 08-29-13, 09:33 AM   #293
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If the president should be removed for that sort of thing then we have to start with Jefferson and move to Buchanan, Cleveland, Eisenhower and Kennedy.
Did any of these presidents commit perjury?
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Old 08-29-13, 10:18 AM   #294
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Who in their right mind would move the UN headquarters to Russia??
Well Packlife, that post is easily explained.
The UN is a Jewish plot, it is in NY which is part of a Jewish plot, NY is in the US which is part of the global Jewish plot.
Moscow is not of this globe so doesn't have the global Jewish plot and the UN will magicly become not a Jewish plot if it is moved.
So to answer, the right mind in this case is what passes for a mind on the extreme far right. It is thoughts given from the devout swallowers of the Proktos writings about of the elders of zion
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Not surprised by the UN mandate which is only to try and decide if chemical weapons have been used but not looking to lay the blame on either side.

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UN chemical weapons experts are in Syria investigating the attacks.
They are due to finish their work on Friday and give their preliminary findings to UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon at the weekend.

Their mandate does not involve apportioning blame for the attacks, which took place in eastern Damascus on 21 August and left at least 355 dead.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-23884313


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Old 08-29-13, 10:56 AM   #296
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Some good arguments for and against being made in the Commons, some very frank statements being put forward. Honestly I expect that both French and American governments are watching the debate with interest to see which way the UK will go. I imagine they'd both be ready to act without UK assistance but both would be much happier with us on board for that added legitimacy.
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Old 08-29-13, 11:03 AM   #297
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I agree about the 'added legitimacy' but our contribution would probably be the smallest of the three unless additional attack squadrons are sent to Akrotiri.
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Old 08-29-13, 11:14 AM   #298
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I agree about the 'added legitimacy' but our contribution would probably be the smallest of the three unless additional attack squadrons are sent to Akrotiri.
Well, we've got a few TLAMs to throw out from subs, probably about two in the region.

Got to admit Galloway is making a good argument at the moment.
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Old 08-29-13, 11:45 AM   #299
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Yes, it doesn't sound like your PM is having an easy go of it right now.

"We have got to learn the lessons of Iraq because people remember the mistakes that were made in Iraq and I am not willing to make those mistakes again," said Labour's current leader Ed Miliband"

http://news.msn.com/world/ghosts-of-...y-syria-strike

And it finally seems that our Congress is getting off their collective arses and finally questioning the reasons for this strike. God help us if Congress actually wakes up,lol
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I think Congress will be watching this debate too and having a good think about the case for war. Russia, meanwhile, has called the UNSC together, after they and China shot down the UKs proposal yesterday (no real surprises there).

And meanwhile in the Golan Heights:



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