food for thought (I need to vent)

[kranz]

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

Yeah, those dirty cops who made you push that accelerator pedal down!

Oh wait, you mean they....

Oh...

They didn't write the law and they didn't force you to break it. Put the blame where it belongs.

Lemme guess - you didn't read the story, only the synopsis by Tribesman?

I don't blame the police for doing their job.
You are on the streets? Great

But do your JOB, not MONEY.

Coppers with laser radars are a necessity as long as they stand in the right spots.
Standing in a spot where there haven't been any accidents for 25 years is NOT a good spot.
It's a good spot in terms of money-making and being a pain in the neck for drivers.(yet it is still regarded as 'protecting the law').

I trolled the copper with a silly face, he trolled me back with his laser.

(waiting for more posts blaming me for not respecting the speed limit)

Originally Posted by Garion

Don't know where I am going with this, but I daresay there are good cops over there as well as corrupt ones.

sure there are good cops.
They are called Yeti-coppers.

Everyone talks about them - no one has ever seen any.
(j/k)

[soopaman2]

I am not gonna say that revenue producing terds looking for easy busts do not exist, I am speaking on my local police, in my state and township.

But the police in my area, are honest, wave at you as they drive by, call you by your first name.

Even outside of my town, and in situations where I was pulled over, I was treated in a non condescending way, and with respect.

Do the speed limit bro. Why have a speed limit if it is not enforced?

You will get there, try driving over a NJ/NY tunnel or bridge during rush hour for a lesson in patience.

sorry but it has already taken you two posts and you are still far, far away from the problem.

The problem is, they nearly caught you and you don't like it.

here, dry those rage tears

You are the one crying like a baby who had his hand in the cookie jar.

Lemme guess - you didn't read the story, only the synopsis by Tribesman?

The synopsis where you are ranting because you nearly got caughtbreaking the law?
Thats the story you wrote.
Read your own story then complain if you were in the right.
If you were not in the right you have no grounds to complain.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by kranz

Standing in a spot where there haven't been any accidents for 25 years is NOT a good spot.
It's a good spot in terms of money-making and being a pain in the neck for drivers.(yet it is still regarded as 'protecting the law').



(waiting for more posts blaming me for not respecting the speed limit)

Where would be a good spot for you? It is only a pain in the neck when you are breaking the speed of light and are stopped. Instead of giving fines(to which you are calling a cash grab) would 30 days in the lock up be better?

And yeah, stop speeding and you will have a much better day. Save gas. Maybe save a life.

[vienna]

I take rather a bit of exception to the mass characterization of law enforcement as "scum". I have had more than my share of experiences with somewhat questionable encounters with the police, mainly, if not exclusively, with the Los Angeles Police Department (LAPD). There used to be a culture of machismo swagger and entitlement in the LAPD fostered by a leadership quite lacking in any reasonable consideration for the public, a culture that permeated to the ranks of the patrol officers. The ratio of those officers who took the culture as a "right" was quite high, but there were honestly a majority who were just trying to do their sworn duties to the best of their abilities, sometimes having to "swim upstream" against the current of the LAPD culture. I was stopped once (one of many, many times) by a pair of LAPD officers. One was a senior office, the other a more junior officer. The junior was very keen to find something, anything, with which to bust me. After searching me and my car, finding nothing, he then made a very thorough check for any (and I do mean any) wants, warrants, reports of recent suspicious local activity, overdue library books, etc. Finding nothing, he then asked me "Have you ever been arrested?" I replied I hadn't which prompted the question "Why not?" I will never forget the exasperated look on the face of a more senior officer when he grabbed the junior and said "Enough! Get back in the squad!" The senior then handed me back my papers and walked me back to my car. When I was back inside, he leaned down to my open window and said "I'm sorry about this. He's not my regular partner. We do have some ----heads on the force." I have known some very good officers on the LAPD and do not lump them in with the losers. After the debacle of the L. A. Riots in 1992, a great effort was made to really overhaul the LAPD and, after a couple of false starts, Chief William Bratton was appointed to head the LAPD. Under his leadership, the LAPD became far more fair, efficient, accountable, less political, and more trusted by the public at large. The quality of a law enforcement agency is reflective of its leadership and the willingness of the public to support it or to seek to correct its flaws...

As for some of those "speed traps", etc., yes, some are abusive, but far more are in place to remedy a problem usually at the behest of those living in an area, If people are creating a potentially unsafe condition by, say, going over the speed limit by "just a few" MPH, they have brought the consequence on themselves. The ticketing officer did not press down on your accelerator, force you to make an unsafe maneuver, cause you to nearly knock down a pedestrian, or any of the other "unfair" offenses for which you may have been ticketed/arrested. It is interesting how many of those who complain about the red light cameras, speed traps, DUI checkpoints, etc. seem to be angry not because they were innocent of an infraction, but, rather, angry because they were caught...

Police, for the much greater part, do what they must to uphold the law fairly. If you feel you must blame someone for being "trapped", blame those like yourself, who tried to "finesse" the law, thus requiring the "trap" in the first place...

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[AVGWarhawk]

kranz

I already explained it.
A good spot is where dangerous situations happen, where exceeding the speed limit might be a threat for pedestrians/drivers, near schools, etc.

Well, here is the deal. The speed limit is set to assist drivers in negotiating the road and making safe passage. The limit is not set on a whim. Roads have been studied since the inception of the automobile and it's limitations. Man and his limitations. Whether you think it is a dumb spot the police do not. The limit was set so people can survive the day. Also, has anyone lodged a complaint on this stretch of road? You know, folks like yourself going over the limit that needs to be addressed. Last weekend I was in corn country. There was a two police car speed trap. Glad the cops were their. There was a jackwagon running my bumper to run faster. He backed off and stayed off my tail after passing the speed trap. These officers serve a purpose. So do speed traps.

I admitted that I broke the limit in #11.
So what?
a fourth attempt (or even more, stopped counting at the third one) and still a miss.

I have no grounds to complain about speed limits per se but I have grounds to complain about the police not doing what they are supposed to do and, in addition to that, doing 'their jobs' in spots where they are not needed.

It is your complaint that is a miss, a complete miss.
BTW You admitted that you were breaking the limit in post #1.
You have no grounds at all.
The police were doing what they were supposed to be doing, and your own actions show that they were in a spot where they were needed.

The only grounds you could possibly have is that the speed limit as set is wrong for the road in question, in which case it isn't the police at all you should be complaining about

[Feuer Frei!]

I'm curious about only 1 thing.

Why has the thread not been closed or at least a mod has asked the op to edit his initial post?

There is some very colourful language being used and also sends out some seriously inappropriate messages to the subsim community.

I have to say that the first post is nothing more than poorly-worded, useless and imo inappropriate forum material.

We all have our views on the local law enforcement.

But to openly call them inappropriate names and wish them a quick burial 6 foot under is a bit too far.

My thoughts.

Look at it this way Feuer Frei, having the OP as it was written shows it for what it is.