Modern Roadrobbery

AVGWarhawk · 08-21-13, 01:52 PM

Never fool with the IRS. Period.

They conduct a seizure of a different nature.

Jimbuna · 08-21-13, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Never fool with the IRS. Period.

They conduct a seizure of a different nature.

Same in the UK with HMRC...almost unlimited powers.

WernherVonTrapp · 08-21-13, 02:24 PM

You think that's bad? Look up the U.S. Eminent Domain law.

AVGWarhawk · 08-21-13, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by WernherVonTrapp

You think that's bad? Look up the U.S. Eminent Domain law.

Another obscure fuzzy law open to any interpretation.

Aktungbby · 08-21-13, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna

Same in the UK with HMRC...almost unlimited powers.

The Bobbies are'nt too cordial either and they don't ride two by two...

Wolferz · 08-21-13, 03:21 PM

Gee officer, if you smell weed, maybe you shouldn't smoke it while on duty.

IIRC, the Texas officer used the same shtick in that roadside strip search not long ago. Not only are the bad cops flim flamming folks, they're sexually molesting them too and using bogus probable cause to do it.

America turning into a police state?
I think we're there already.

AVGWarhawk · 08-21-13, 03:31 PM

If I'm not mistaken a NJ cop was asking for oral sex in lieu of issuing a speeding ticket. Strangely, he was getting them.

Aktungbby · 08-21-13, 03:39 PM

Guys or GalS or both?

AVGWarhawk · 08-21-13, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Aktungbby

Guys or GalS or both?

WernherVonTrapp · 08-21-13, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Strangely, he was getting them.

Yes indeed, that is strange, but I highly doubt it's resrticted to NJ.

I couldn't begin to tell you all the stories of the cheating spouses I came across in cars at night, tucked away in the darkest corners of the parking lots I would patrol.

Aktungbby · 08-21-13, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by WernherVonTrapp

Yes indeed, that is strange, but I highly doubt it's resrticted to NJ.

I couldn't begin to tell you all the stories of the cheating spouses I came across in cars at night, tucked away in the darkest corners of the parking lots I would patrol.

coppus interuptus?

AVGWarhawk · 08-21-13, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by WernherVonTrapp

Yes indeed, that is strange, but I highly doubt it's resrticted to NJ.

This was just one I read about on the news a few years back. No doubt this type of activity happens elsewhere.

Wolferz · 08-21-13, 02:34 PM

No officer, I do NOT consent to searches of my person or my property without a warrant. An officer saying that he smells weed, is not probable cause, nor is my destination and point of origin. The police state is rife with abuse these days, on a par with the corrupt Mexican law dogs. Being robbed under threat of jail isn't much different than being robbed at gunpoint. The officer has a gun and should be charged with armed robbery.
To protect and to serve? Seems to be a joke in Tenaha Texas. More like serve themselves. The USAG should be sending some federal marshals down there to catch these jokers in the act. If it were me, I'd be filing a complaint. Technically, this isn't much different from a speed trap where they haul you in to face a corrupt local judge within minutes of arresting you for going 5 MPH over the limit.
I think I'll just stay home from now on.

WernherVonTrapp · 08-21-13, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolferz

An officer saying that he smells weed, is not probable cause,..

It is if the officer proves to the satisfaction of the court that he can recognize the odor of Marijuana. In NJ police academies, they actually burn real marijuana during training for this very purpose. Don't know about other states, but I would think the same.

Aktungbby · 08-21-13, 02:52 PM

Good point; falls under " what is apparent to your senses" As I lived in a college dorm in the 60/70's ( MN green-essentially hemp) and occasionally actually guard a "medical sinsemilla" facility (at least until the Feds close it down) here in enlightened, sunny CA, my olfactory judgement is seldom contested by defense council. Like Wyatt Earp, the best work both sides of the issue for that encompassing perspective. Nothing you learn is completely useless over time...

08-21-13, 01:52 PM	#1
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,275 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	Never fool with the IRS. Period. They conduct a seizure of a different nature. __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

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WernherVonTrapp Admiral Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Now, alot farther from NYC. Posts: 2,228 Downloads: 105 Uploads: 0	You think that's bad? Look up the U.S. Eminent Domain law. __________________ "The journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step." -Miyamoto Musashi ------------------------------------------------------- "What is truth?" -Pontius Pilate

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Wolferz Navy Seal Join Date: May 2007 Location: On a mighty quest for the Stick of Truth Posts: 5,963 Downloads: 52 Uploads: 0	Gee officer, if you smell weed, maybe you shouldn't smoke it while on duty. IIRC, the Texas officer used the same shtick in that roadside strip search not long ago. Not only are the bad cops flim flamming folks, they're sexually molesting them too and using bogus probable cause to do it. America turning into a police state? I think we're there already. __________________ Tomorrow never comes

08-21-13, 03:31 PM	#7
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,275 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	If I'm not mistaken a NJ cop was asking for oral sex in lieu of issuing a speeding ticket. Strangely, he was getting them. __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

08-21-13, 03:39 PM	#8
Aktungbby Gefallen Engel U-666 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: On a tilted, overheated, overpopulated spinning mudball on Collision course with Andromeda Galaxy Posts: 30,030 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	Guys or GalS or both? __________________ "Only two things are infinite; The Universe and human squirrelyness?!!

08-21-13, 02:34 PM	#13
Wolferz Navy Seal Join Date: May 2007 Location: On a mighty quest for the Stick of Truth Posts: 5,963 Downloads: 52 Uploads: 0	No officer, I do NOT consent to searches of my person or my property without a warrant. An officer saying that he smells weed, is not probable cause, nor is my destination and point of origin. The police state is rife with abuse these days, on a par with the corrupt Mexican law dogs. Being robbed under threat of jail isn't much different than being robbed at gunpoint. The officer has a gun and should be charged with armed robbery. To protect and to serve? Seems to be a joke in Tenaha Texas. More like serve themselves. The USAG should be sending some federal marshals down there to catch these jokers in the act. If it were me, I'd be filing a complaint. Technically, this isn't much different from a speed trap where they haul you in to face a corrupt local judge within minutes of arresting you for going 5 MPH over the limit. I think I'll just stay home from now on. __________________ Tomorrow never comes

08-21-13, 02:52 PM	#15
Aktungbby Gefallen Engel U-666 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: On a tilted, overheated, overpopulated spinning mudball on Collision course with Andromeda Galaxy Posts: 30,030 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	Good point; falls under " what is apparent to your senses" As I lived in a college dorm in the 60/70's ( MN green-essentially hemp) and occasionally actually guard a "medical sinsemilla" facility (at least until the Feds close it down) here in enlightened, sunny CA, my olfactory judgement is seldom contested by defense council. Like Wyatt Earp, the best work both sides of the issue for that encompassing perspective. Nothing you learn is completely useless over time... __________________ "Only two things are infinite; The Universe and human squirrelyness?!!