Favorite sub? - Page 2

Rockin Robbins · 08-15-13, 12:19 PM

I also have to say I enjoy the S boats. Unfortunately, it is because in our game they are brand new and don't break down and aren't half rusted through like the real ones were in WWII.

One of the reasons I like the S-Boat is that they were designed for underwater performance at the expense of surface handling and speed. People love to credit the Type XXI U-Boats as being the first underwater optimized sub. Sorry, beat to the punch by 30 years by the venerable S-Boat. She's as fast underwater as she is on the surface and super-quiet, so I can use a significant portion of that speed while stalking the enemy.

With the S-Boat there is no locating a random convoy and doing the high speed end-around because.........THERE IS NO HIGH SPEED!

You have to be at a narrow range of AoB on detection in order to be able to maneuver to attack position. If you're abeam of them when you spot 'em just wave because they're gone.

But that underwater handling makes the S-Boat a joy to fight.

merc4ulfate · 08-15-13, 10:02 PM

Bubblehead ... I have been to Savannah and I loved it there.

Bubblehead1980 · 08-15-13, 10:24 PM

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Bubblehead ... I have been to Savannah and I loved it there.

Same here, St Patricks Day is a blast there, as well as Oktoberfest.I have family there, it's been a second home for many years.

Capt_Morgan · 08-16-13, 01:24 AM

Me in a GATO

Gerry and Japs beware..

andycts · 08-16-13, 05:16 AM

From what you guys have posted,I'm going to to give the S boat a try but need a bit more experience first.Driving a porpoise at the moment and finding this enough of a challenge.

TorpX · 08-20-13, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Rockin Robbins

With the S-Boat there is no locating a random convoy and doing the high speed end-around because.........THERE IS NO HIGH SPEED!

You have to be at a narrow range of AoB on detection in order to be able to maneuver to attack position. If you're abeam of them when you spot 'em just wave because they're gone.

But that underwater handling makes the S-Boat a joy to fight.

You're not kidding! It was even more pronounced in SHCE. I remember "flank" speed for the S-class in heavy seas was less than 3 knots! I was like you were sailing through cold molasses. Good luck catching up to a fast target.

The turning ability was better though. I don't know if that is realistic or just a game variance, but with SH4/RFB, they can hardly turn submerged. They were pretty agile in SHCE.

Capt_Morgan · 08-20-13, 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by andycts

From what you guys have posted,I'm going to to give the S boat a try but need a bit more experience first.Driving a porpoise at the moment and finding this enough of a challenge.

They are named 'S boat' for a reason. 3 guess what the S stands for, and its not submarine.

Actual Play Test Data
S-18: Top Speed 13, NO Aft Torpedoes, 4 Fore with 8 extras NO AA Guns

S-42 (not much better) as above but top speed 17

Gotta love in the "help" and the "Museum" they say 19 an 21 repectivly.

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CalolinaCoyote · 08-22-13, 01:24 PM

The S Boats get AA guns, in 1943, lol

Sailor Steve · 08-22-13, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Capt_Morgan

They are named 'S boat' for a reason. 3 guess what the S stands for, and its not submarine.

They were called the 'S' class because they came after the 'R' class.

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Actual Play Test Data
S-18: Top Speed 13, NO Aft Torpedoes, 4 Fore with 8 extras NO AA Guns

S-42 (not much better) as above but top speed 17

Gotta love in the "help" and the "Museum" they say 19 an 21 repectivly.

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Then something's wrong, because the S-42 class made 14.5 knots in real life.

Rockin Robbins · 08-22-13, 01:49 PM

And our S Boats are fresh out of the factory--No defects! No breakdowns! The real crews dealt with multiple crippling breakdowns per cruise and sometimes per day. And the hulls were corroded so thin nobody knew what a safe dive depth was. Nobody alive anyway.

Bubblehead1980 · 08-22-13, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Rockin Robbins

And our S Boats are fresh out of the factory--No defects! No breakdowns! The real crews dealt with multiple crippling breakdowns per cruise and sometimes per day. And the hulls were corroded so thin nobody knew what a safe dive depth was. Nobody alive anyway.

Try WEbster's S class mod, it definitely makes the s boat fragile.

Armistead · 08-22-13, 09:36 PM

Yea, you'll really like it...

TorpX · 08-22-13, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Rockin Robbins

And our S Boats are fresh out of the factory--No defects! No breakdowns!

Well, yes, but ALL our game boats are "fresh out of the factory--No defects"... come to think of it, our crews are the same way--always brave! No breakdowns!

Armistead · 08-23-13, 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by TorpX

Well, yes, but ALL our game boats are "fresh out of the factory--No defects"... come to think of it, our crews are the same way--always brave! No breakdowns!

I have a few crew members that break down. For instance, Wern has very low ratings and often panics, being an officer, it has great impact on his station.

c13Garrison · 08-23-13, 08:46 AM

There's a mod that would greatly overcomplicate the game, the PsychProfile Mod. Watch your crew curl up into balls and scream, ...yeah. ...second thought, forget I mentioned it.

08-15-13, 12:19 PM	#16
Rockin Robbins Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: DeLand, FL Posts: 8,900 Downloads: 135 Uploads: 52	I also have to say I enjoy the S boats. Unfortunately, it is because in our game they are brand new and don't break down and aren't half rusted through like the real ones were in WWII. One of the reasons I like the S-Boat is that they were designed for underwater performance at the expense of surface handling and speed. People love to credit the Type XXI U-Boats as being the first underwater optimized sub. Sorry, beat to the punch by 30 years by the venerable S-Boat. She's as fast underwater as she is on the surface and super-quiet, so I can use a significant portion of that speed while stalking the enemy. With the S-Boat there is no locating a random convoy and doing the high speed end-around because.........THERE IS NO HIGH SPEED! You have to be at a narrow range of AoB on detection in order to be able to maneuver to attack position. If you're abeam of them when you spot 'em just wave because they're gone. But that underwater handling makes the S-Boat a joy to fight. __________________ Sub Skipper's Bag of Tricks, Slightly Subnuclear Mk 14 & Cutie, Slightly Subnuclear Deck Gun, EZPlot 2.0, TMOPlot, TMOKeys, SH4CMS

08-16-13, 05:16 AM	#20
andycts Seaman Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: South Yorkshire,UK Posts: 32 Downloads: 232 Uploads: 0	From what you guys have posted,I'm going to to give the S boat a try but need a bit more experience first.Driving a porpoise at the moment and finding this enough of a challenge. __________________ TMO 2.5 OTC for TMO 2.5 OTC realistic scopes ISE v3 TMO&RFB LST TMO v2 TDW ship plane fire damage Websters real lifeboat fix TMO different smoke

08-22-13, 01:49 PM	#25
Rockin Robbins Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: DeLand, FL Posts: 8,900 Downloads: 135 Uploads: 52	And our S Boats are fresh out of the factory--No defects! No breakdowns! The real crews dealt with multiple crippling breakdowns per cruise and sometimes per day. And the hulls were corroded so thin nobody knew what a safe dive depth was. Nobody alive anyway. __________________ Sub Skipper's Bag of Tricks, Slightly Subnuclear Mk 14 & Cutie, Slightly Subnuclear Deck Gun, EZPlot 2.0, TMOPlot, TMOKeys, SH4CMS

08-22-13, 09:36 PM	#27
Armistead Rear Admiral Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: on the Dan Posts: 10,880 Downloads: 364 Uploads: 0	Yea, you'll really like it... __________________ You see my dog don't like people laughing. He gets the crazy idea you're laughing at him. Now if you apologize like I know you're going to, I might convince him that you really didn't mean it.

08-15-13, 10:02 PM	#17
merc4ulfate DILLIGAF Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: florida Posts: 2,058 Downloads: 210 Uploads: 0	Bubblehead ... I have been to Savannah and I loved it there.

08-16-13, 01:24 AM	#19
Capt_Morgan Bosun Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Auckland, New Zealand Posts: 61 Downloads: 12 Uploads: 0	Me in a GATO Gerry and Japs beware..

08-22-13, 01:24 PM	#23
CalolinaCoyote Watch Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 22 Downloads: 58 Uploads: 0	The S Boats get AA guns, in 1943, lol

08-23-13, 08:46 AM	#30
c13Garrison Ensign Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Chicago-ish, USA Posts: 223 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	There's a mod that would greatly overcomplicate the game, the PsychProfile Mod. Watch your crew curl up into balls and scream, ...yeah. ...second thought, forget I mentioned it.