Is this abnormal?

in_vino_vomitus · 08-14-13, 02:26 AM

Karma is a bitch

pstein · 08-14-13, 02:42 AM

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Originally Posted by in_vino_vomitus

Karma is a bitch

Yep. I'm disabling the magnetic exploder from hereon out. I think that's going to reduce the number of prematures, at least.

in_vino_vomitus · 08-14-13, 04:56 AM

If you can find it, Ducimus' "Weather Rock" post is well worth your time. In a nutshell, the mag. pistol is prone to premature detonation, but has relatively few duds, the impact pistol is immune to premature detonation but has lots of duds. Premature detonation happens most in rough seas, so if the sea is rough, go with impact. If the sea is calm go with magnetic. Try to avoid 90 degree impacts with the impact pistol.

I was going to say I'm glad the issue resolved itself, but given what that entails.....

I bet you're kicking yourself for mentioning it now.

merc4ulfate · 08-14-13, 08:49 PM

You can get premmies in rough sea using the contact detonator

TorpX · 08-14-13, 11:40 PM

Not to rain on anybody's parade, but the way the game simulates the exploder function is complete nonsense. In the US Mk. VI exploder (the one used in the Mk. 14 torpedo), there was no setting the exploder to "magnetic" or "contact"; it was a dual function device. The magnetic feature was sometimes disabled by cutting wires (so I've read), and rendering the exploder a contact only unit. This was a permanent change and until fairly late in the war, AGAINST ORDERS. Because of this, it was not generally admitted, and tended to obscure the actual number of exploder failures.

The point is that the tactics people use, involving changing from magnetic to impact and vice-versa, are very much at odds with the history.

in_vino_vomitus · 08-15-13, 03:17 AM

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Originally Posted by TorpX

Not to rain on anybody's parade, but the way the game simulates the exploder function is complete nonsense. In the US Mk. VI exploder (the one used in the Mk. 14 torpedo), there was no setting the exploder to "magnetic" or "contact"; it was a dual function device. The magnetic feature was sometimes disabled by cutting wires (so I've read), and rendering the exploder a contact only unit. This was a permanent change and until fairly late in the war, AGAINST ORDERS. Because of this, it was not generally admitted, and tended to obscure the actual number of exploder failures.

The point is that the tactics people use, involving changing from magnetic to impact and vice-versa, are very much at odds with the history.

Yep - No getting away from that - nonetheless, duds and prematures suck and the game can be played in a way that minimises them, without taking the blue pill and ticking the "No duds" box. I guess it would have been better to maybe give an option to disable the magnetic exploder in port as a once and for all option, but the game we have is what we have.

It occurs to me that if time travel were developed, somebody somewhere would use it in an attempt to tweak history to better fit the dynamics of a game such as this one. Anyone feel like writing that story?

c13Garrison · 08-15-13, 08:26 AM

Good idea Vino, I'll just pop in my Tardis & go back to the 30's to the early design stage of the magnetic exploder and convince them the user should be able to select between magnetic & contact detonation! I wouldn't at ALL be motivated to correct the problem entirely, after all SHIV is the important thing!

Actually, if I were feeling whimsical and could manipulate time & space, after a lifetime of preventing horrendous evils I'd just want to make a universe where Cindy Crawford, Rita Hayworth & Liv Tyler knew my name. I'd call that a good day's work.

08-14-13, 02:26 AM	#1
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08-14-13, 04:56 AM	#3
in_vino_vomitus XO Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Preston, Lancs, UK Posts: 418 Downloads: 137 Uploads: 0	If you can find it, Ducimus' "Weather Rock" post is well worth your time. In a nutshell, the mag. pistol is prone to premature detonation, but has relatively few duds, the impact pistol is immune to premature detonation but has lots of duds. Premature detonation happens most in rough seas, so if the sea is rough, go with impact. If the sea is calm go with magnetic. Try to avoid 90 degree impacts with the impact pistol. I was going to say I'm glad the issue resolved itself, but given what that entails..... I bet you're kicking yourself for mentioning it now. __________________ Forget death - I'll take dishonour! [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] TMO 2.5 1.5 Optical Targeting Correction 031312 for TMO 2.5 1.5 OTC Realistic Scopes for TMO TheDarkWraith_DC_Water_Disturbance_v2_0_SH4 Improved Stock environment v3_TMO&RFB TMO_Alt_engine-sounds TMO_Alternate_JS_Radar_performance TMO17_19_different_smoke

08-14-13, 11:40 PM	#5
TorpX Silent Hunter Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 3,975 Downloads: 153 Uploads: 11	Not to rain on anybody's parade, but the way the game simulates the exploder function is complete nonsense. In the US Mk. VI exploder (the one used in the Mk. 14 torpedo), there was no setting the exploder to "magnetic" or "contact"; it was a dual function device. The magnetic feature was sometimes disabled by cutting wires (so I've read), and rendering the exploder a contact only unit. This was a permanent change and until fairly late in the war, AGAINST ORDERS. Because of this, it was not generally admitted, and tended to obscure the actual number of exploder failures. The point is that the tactics people use, involving changing from magnetic to impact and vice-versa, are very much at odds with the history.

08-14-13, 08:49 PM	#4
merc4ulfate DILLIGAF Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: florida Posts: 2,058 Downloads: 210 Uploads: 0	You can get premmies in rough sea using the contact detonator

08-15-13, 08:26 AM	#7
c13Garrison Ensign Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Chicago-ish, USA Posts: 223 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	Good idea Vino, I'll just pop in my Tardis & go back to the 30's to the early design stage of the magnetic exploder and convince them the user should be able to select between magnetic & contact detonation! I wouldn't at ALL be motivated to correct the problem entirely, after all SHIV is the important thing! Actually, if I were feeling whimsical and could manipulate time & space, after a lifetime of preventing horrendous evils I'd just want to make a universe where Cindy Crawford, Rita Hayworth & Liv Tyler knew my name. I'd call that a good day's work.