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Old 08-12-13, 10:39 AM   #1
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To the Mayflower, John Alden I believe. Probably could keep going from there.
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I know I've got family back on the Mayflower...I just don't know names.
If you don't know the names then you don't know it goes back to the Mayflower. You only know what you can show. Get off yer lazy butts and do some research!
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Old 08-13-13, 07:05 AM   #2
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If you don't know the names then you don't know it goes back to the Mayflower. You only know what you can show. Get off yer lazy butts and do some research!
Actually, I have. About 25 years ago my mother and I did the research, chronicling the entire family tree back to the early 1600's. At the time, the internet was practically non-existent, so getting records from England at the time was nigh impossible, so we stopped there.

We did end up with a 300 page tome with a direct lineage back to the Mayflower. Included were various scrapbook items, news articles, photo/lithographs of family.

The part of the name I wasn't sure on, as I haven't read the book in 15-20 years, was the exact spelling.

I challenge you to now get off your lazy but and Show me your last 400 years of lineage.

And yes, I know you were joking... but damn that was a lot of work.
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My family's business over the centuries has been rose growers. When we arrived in NY my family set up a mile of greenhouses for growing roses. They employed Asians to work the greenhouses. One day a large box kite was constructed by one of the workers. The kite was large enough to fly a worker and they did. Unfortunate he fell out of the kite and crashed through a greenhouse window. He was ok after the incident.

At any rate, my great grandfather created a hybrid rose knows as the Schultheis Rose. Here is a picture and description.

http://www.vintagegardens.com/roses.aspx?cat_id=20


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At any rate, my great grandfather created a hybrid rose knows as the Schultheis Rose. Here is a picture and description.
That is so cool!
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That is so cool!
It is kind of neat seeing the rose every now and then for sale at local nurseries.
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My family's business over the centuries has been rose growers. When we arrived in NY my family set up a mile of greenhouses for growing roses. They employed Asians to work the greenhouses. One day a large box kite was constructed by one of the workers. The kite was large enough to fly a worker and they did. Unfortunate he fell out of the kite and crashed through a greenhouse window. He was ok after the incident.

At any rate, my great grandfather created a hybrid rose knows as the Schultheis Rose. Here is a picture and description.

http://www.vintagegardens.com/roses.aspx?cat_id=20


Will be looking that up to grow in my back yard along with the veggies, and raspberries, grape vines and the rose tree arbors -Schultheis. We plant the roses at the heads of the grape vine rows here as they are a early warning mine canary of sorts. if the roses ain't looking good there's probably a problem with the grapes too. Have your defibrillator standing by: 1 acre of Cabernet Savignon acreage is $2-4 million-roses and vines not included- but it may be a useful sale lead for you as the great houses of the landsraat , Mondavi etc., all do it too and it looks good for the tourists.
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Old 08-13-13, 09:49 AM   #7
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Actually, I have.
That is awesome!


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I challenge you to now get off your lazy but and Show me your last 400 years of lineage.
I really should. I keep meaning to, but there is always something else going on, some new project that keeps me busy. Ancestry.com keeps asking me to sign up, but I tell myself I don't want to spend the money. The truth is that I really am a lazy-butt, and I need to get over that and get started.

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And yes, I know you were joking...
It was also mostly aimed at Red October, who gave nothing but a big "I think..." I really do try to live by that logical credo that says that if it's not a fact, it's just a guess, and if you can't show it then you don't know it. That's why I qualified the Saxon connection by saying that at this point it's just hearsay.

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but damn that was a lot of work.
I can imagine. Most of my information comes from a small booklet published by one of my relatives many decades ago. She did all the work, and it's still largely incomplete.
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That is awesome!



I really should. I keep meaning to, but there is always something else going on, some new project that keeps me busy. Ancestry.com keeps asking me to sign up, but I tell myself I don't want to spend the money. The truth is that I really am a lazy-butt, and I need to get over that and get started.


It was also mostly aimed at Red October, who gave nothing but a big "I think..." I really do try to live by that logical credo that says that if it's not a fact, it's just a guess, and if you can't show it then you don't know it. That's why I qualified the Saxon connection by saying that at this point it's just hearsay.


I can imagine. Most of my information comes from a small booklet published by one of my relatives many decades ago. She did all the work, and it's still largely incomplete.
Hence my reference to the domesday book in my reference to Hastings; I know you appreciate good sound primary source scholarship!
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You guys do know that Ancestry.com...well, co.uk anyway, has a 14 day free trial at the moment? That's what I'm using...and I can recommend it highly.
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Actually, I have. About 25 years ago my mother and I did the research, chronicling the entire family tree back to the early 1600's. At the time, the internet was practically non-existent, so getting records from England at the time was nigh impossible, so we stopped there.

We did end up with a 300 page tome with a direct lineage back to the Mayflower. Included were various scrapbook items, news articles, photo/lithographs of family.

The part of the name I wasn't sure on, as I haven't read the book in 15-20 years, was the exact spelling.

I challenge you to now get off your lazy but and Show me your last 400 years of lineage.

And yes, I know you were joking... but damn that was a lot of work.
Doing the hand work is he best way to do it. You would be surprised how much false info gets online. Luckily we have a lot of family info, but to this day ancestry.com and other services use wrong info. They have all descendents stemming from his second wife, not his first. Plus you'll never get the full info online. I find churches the best place.

My wife and I have both tried to collect our family history. Both have 100s of pics, tin types, nitrates, deeds, grants. We have furniture from the 1700's, clothes from the 1800's, numerous military items from the CW to Korea. I even have the trunk my original ancestor brought over from Germany in the 1700's.

If we ever get our farm house restored, we plan to make it a family museum of sorts....
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